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Post by klinemj on Jul 7, 2021 12:37:44 GMT -5
I guess this means my cheap little office computer is not compatible...right?  EDIT: similar results for my HTPC (which I only use as a Roon core and running DIRAC). Mark |
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Post by bootman on Jul 7, 2021 14:13:42 GMT -5
I guess this means my cheap little office computer is not compatible...right? View AttachmentEDIT: similar results for my HTPC (which I only use as a Roon core and running DIRAC). Mark Check your BIOS to see if secure boot and TPM are available options to turn on. They are usually off by default for backwards compatibility. |
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Post by DavidR on Jul 8, 2021 19:00:42 GMT -5
I guess this means my cheap little office computer is not compatible...right? View AttachmentEDIT: similar results for my HTPC (which I only use as a Roon core and running DIRAC). Mark Check your BIOS to see if secure boot and TPM are available options to turn on. They are usually off by default for backwards compatibility. I have it and its disabled. I just asked Cortana if I had it.
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Post by vcautokid on Jul 11, 2021 14:06:24 GMT -5
I don't know about 98.5% - but certainly a majority. And that's fine... but only as long as it works for them. I know how to change a tire on my car... However it's been a long time since I remembered how to start a car by sticking a pencil in the carburetor when it was flooded...
But I do have a reliable cell phone... and I keep my premium AAA membership paid up... But I wouldn't even consider offroading, someplace without cell phone coverage, if I didn't know how to fix the vehicle I was driving if it quit. And I wonder how many people realize that their OnStar emergency service won't work in areas without cell phone coverage. (I picture a variation of a popular old cartoon... a fancy SUV, sitting in the desert, half buried in the sand, with a dried up skeleton in the driver's seat... who's STILL waiting for OnStar to show up.) As you say... for many people that solution works... And, if your Apple computer crashes, odds are that one-button backup will save your butt (or your precious pictures)...
And not that many people are in the 1% for whom it fails. HOWEVER, it's still a good idea to know where your files are, and to have an actual backup... just in case. (it would be interesting to know how many Apple users "have never lost an important file or picture due to a hardware problem")
For a lot of people I know the deal breaker is simply Apple's higher prices... or the fact that they're just plain familiar with Windows.
The deal breaker for me with Apple is the fact that a LOT of the software I care about won't run on them... And, since I already know a LOT about Windows, I simply have no reason to consider switching... (For a lot of people the price tag is also a deal-breaker... but I could have had a nice Apple box for what I spent on my last Windows computer.)
Pretty sure this is 98.5% of computer users out there. Apple makes a better product in this regard for them, but they also have attained a "status" in the marketplace as well. Actually I didn't have to go far here. You car is fuel injected and computer and electronic controlled at that. LOL. |
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Post by housetech on Jul 11, 2021 15:57:16 GMT -5
Apple started the all-in-one sphere of products- everything works together and the consumer can buy more apps, hardware, appliances @ the Apple Store.
MicroSoft then jumped on the idea to merge everything in one place; both are handy for many users.
When I spend my money on a product, I don't want my purchase used as a marketing ploy to track my use, sell my info to other "partners" or be required to login multiple times during a session for their convenience of tracking me. I know how to 'turn off' the annoyance, but many do not. It should work the opposite- you opt-in, turn on those features.
Many of my complaints of MS & Apple are not an issue with Linux. Ubuntu did attempt a version that simulated Win 8 all-in-one, touchscreen approach and it flopped. I like that I don't need to upgrade or replace perfectly good hardware to run a Linux OS as it evolves. (unlike MS did for a long time)
My sister uses a Win 7 laptop to surf & email, that's it. She doesn't know how to upgrade to Win10 or Win11 and was told she must upgrade the laptop. WHY?
I offered to upgrade to a SSD and xn Linux Mint with a Win 7 skin and 30 minutes of instruction. Nope, doesn't want to learn a new system. (roll of my eyes) Dual core with 2 gigs ram is good enough for the use.
I just spent hours over the weekend cleaning out 64 Gigs of trackers, downloads & crapware on her Win 10 tower that was crashing and moving at a snails pace, then optimized and repaired the OS. Thank you ccleaner. The amount of perfectly good hardware being scrapped only because MS won't fix their issues irritates me greatly.
Then there are the "Google issues" that we all can agree is an even bigger problem than either mainstream OS.
We now run a VPN.
I won't even get into the issues with "smart TVs" and our privacy...
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Post by housetech on Jul 11, 2021 16:34:30 GMT -5
Who remember using 8 baud telephone handset modems? Try to get data from our field office to home office was painfully slow, then add dropouts. 1st PC owned- Acer 333MHz w W95, omg the nightmares. Then read about & tried Linux- bigger nightmares, needed to be a programmer. 1st Mac- Power G4, 1.25GHz single core. Used it until they quit OS 10.5(?) CPU updates. Malware & viruses made me switch to Apple. I hate MS, Had every OS version except Vista, Must admit Win 10 is pretty good. I bought ($300) Win XP (Longhorn) the first day it came out, what a nightmare for a couple years. It seemed upgrades always crashed the install. Another day or two wasted. For years Win OS was a must in business because most companies wrote Apps that were Windoz only. Never understood why corp-America put up with the malware problems, Unix could have been improved. (see linux) Today, I dual boot Linux Mint & Win10 on AMD Ryzen 5 system If Win 11 is free- maybe, if not Linux full time. Dual booting Linux and Windows is always good insurance. At least you know that no matter how bad MS screw up you will have a functional machine... Over the last 20 or so years I have used a bazillion Linux distributions and a few years ago I settled on Linux Mint as well. Very stable and nicely polished. Dual booting is good and I found running two hard drives is an even better option- one for the OS (one or two) and the other HDD for your data. If the HDD fails, OS crashes or gets malware, reformat, reinstall and never lose your data. My wife's business is PC based, mission critical. I keep an extra HDD with Win 10 installed & configured "just in case". easy peasy. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 3, 2021 16:05:43 GMT -5
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Post by DavidR on Aug 3, 2021 18:23:09 GMT -5
When will they announce that they are dropping support for Win10 forcing you to buy their crap.
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Post by monkumonku on Aug 3, 2021 18:25:13 GMT -5
When will they announce that they are dropping support for Win10 forcing you to buy their crap. I am not waiting for Windows 11. I bought a Mac a couple of months ago.  |
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Post by DavidR on Aug 3, 2021 20:53:12 GMT -5
When will they announce that they are dropping support for Win10 forcing you to buy their crap. I am not waiting for Windows 11. I bought a Mac a couple of months ago. Smart move. I learned on a Mac, a IIfx. It was far ahead of PCs and it took them a long time to catch up to Mac. My son has a Mac (and PC) and loves his Mac laptop. It got him thru college.
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Post by monkumonku on Aug 3, 2021 22:21:30 GMT -5
I am not waiting for Windows 11. I bought a Mac a couple of months ago. Smart move. I learned on a Mac, a IIfx. It was far ahead of PCs and it took them a long time to catch up to Mac. My son has a Mac (and PC) and loves his Mac laptop. It got him thru college.
I've used PC's up until this recent acquisition of a Mac Mini. It just does what it is supposed to do. I never really had problems with a PC but I find Windows to be far more intrusive, like they have to be the government and interfere with everything you do. Supposedly in your best interests. |
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Post by graphic on Aug 3, 2021 22:49:42 GMT -5
YES! The “wicked fast” Mac llfx. A legend. If I remember, we had them “loaded up” with 8 Megabytes of RAM. Does that seem right? I think we paid $10,000 for the computer, $3,000 for a video card, and $3,000 for a 19” color monitor that topped out at 1024 resolution and we were insanely happy that it was so cheap!
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Post by DavidR on Aug 4, 2021 8:31:07 GMT -5
YES! The “wicked fast” Mac llfx. A legend. If I remember, we had them “loaded up” with 8 Megabytes of RAM. Does that seem right? I think we paid $10,000 for the computer, $3,000 for a video card, and $3,000 for a 19” color monitor that topped out at 1024 resolution and we were insanely happy that it was so cheap! Well, it was 1980 and there was nothing close from the competition. All the PCs had to have a DOS card inserted for whatever you were working on.
Those prices seem to be what I recall. They worked and worked well. Pop the cover and most components had a Sony label.
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Post by 405x5 on Aug 4, 2021 8:35:42 GMT -5
I’m so happy regarding the announcement 📢 of Windows 11!
It will make the day I toss it for my New Mac 💻 that much sweeter!
Windows = They put me to work
Mac = They do the work….thank you!
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Post by KeithL on Aug 4, 2021 9:45:36 GMT -5
Having a separate boot drive is an excellent idea... (Note that the term "dual boot" is generally used only when you have two or more boot partitions with different operating systems on them.)
As you say, if you have a separate boot drive, and the operating system crashes, you can reinstall the operating system, or replace the boot drive, and your data remains untouched. And, if you have an older computer that has a "spinny drive", adding a solid state drive as a boot drive will also significantly improve its performance. (Your computer will boot up MUCH faster... and some programs will also load and run significantly faster.) While most laptop computers only hold a single data drive... most desktop computers have room for two or more... so it's relatively simple to add a solid state drive (SSD).
(And, if you haven't noticed, the price on SSDs has dropped a lot recently... you can now purchase a 250 gB SSD... which is plenty big for a boot drive... for about $35 .)
Dual booting Linux and Windows is always good insurance. At least you know that no matter how bad MS screw up you will have a functional machine... Over the last 20 or so years I have used a bazillion Linux distributions and a few years ago I settled on Linux Mint as well. Very stable and nicely polished. Dual booting is good and I found running two hard drives is an even better option- one for the OS (one or two) and the other HDD for your data. If the HDD fails, OS crashes or gets malware, reformat, reinstall and never lose your data. My wife's business is PC based, mission critical. I keep an extra HDD with Win 10 installed & configured "just in case". easy peasy. |
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Post by DavidR on Aug 4, 2021 9:47:22 GMT -5
Having a separate boot drive is an excellent idea... (Note that the term "dual boot" is generally used only when you have two or more boot partitions with different operating systems on them.)
As you say, if you have a separate boot drive, and the operating system crashes, you can reinstall the operating system, or replace the boot drive, and your data remains untouched. And, if you have an older computer that has a "spinny drive", adding a solid state drive as a boot drive will also significantly improve its performance. (Your computer will boot up MUCH faster... and some programs will also load and run significantly faster.) While most laptop computers only hold a single data drive... most desktop computers have room for two or more... so it's relatively simple to add a solid state drive (SSD).
(And, if you haven't noticed, the price on SSDs has dropped a lot recently... you can now purchase a 250 gB SSD... which is plenty big for a boot drive... for about $35 .)
Dual booting is good and I found running two hard drives is an even better option- one for the OS (one or two) and the other HDD for your data. If the HDD fails, OS crashes or gets malware, reformat, reinstall and never lose your data. My wife's business is PC based, mission critical. I keep an extra HDD with Win 10 installed & configured "just in case". easy peasy. +1 on solid state drives. Turn it on and go. |
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Post by KeithL on Aug 4, 2021 10:01:02 GMT -5
The first computer I owned was an Apple II+ . As I recall it cost somewhere around $1000 and came with 16k of RAM - expandable to 64k . Programs were stored on cassette tape. And you used the optional modulator to display the output on your TV - via the antenna terminals.
This was way before IBM PC and Apple McIntosh. And, yes, that WAS the last Apple computer I owned.
YES! The “wicked fast” Mac llfx. A legend. If I remember, we had them “loaded up” with 8 Megabytes of RAM. Does that seem right? I think we paid $10,000 for the computer, $3,000 for a video card, and $3,000 for a 19” color monitor that topped out at 1024 resolution and we were insanely happy that it was so cheap! |
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Post by DavidR on Aug 4, 2021 10:39:09 GMT -5
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 31, 2021 14:10:33 GMT -5
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Post by geebo on Oct 30, 2021 20:33:19 GMT -5
Just installed 11 on my Lenovo laptop. Pretty uneventful, really. Everything I've tried works just as before. |
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