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Post by gmeyer on Feb 9, 2010 21:05:57 GMT -5
If you are getting the "Send "reset 0" command no response!" try downloading the firmware again. This fixed that problem for me, But now I have crossover problems my back surrounds and subwoofer crossovers are messed up. They use random settings instead of the normal increments and I have not been able to get my sub to work. Also the rear right surround speaker does not show up on the level calibration screen,
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Post by pultzar on Feb 9, 2010 21:10:21 GMT -5
If you are getting the "Send "reset 0" command no response!" try downloading the firmware again. This fixed that problem for me, But now I have crossover problems my back surrounds and subwoofer crossovers are messed up. They use random settings instead of the normal increments and I have not been able to get my sub to work. Also the rear right surround speaker does not show up on the level calibration screen, Load the factory default settings, this should fix your problems.
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Post by stormchaser on Feb 9, 2010 21:10:42 GMT -5
So far, rather buggy. No problem installing software on laptop but taking me multiple times to get this to install. One time got to the end of the larger file and got a download complete note but not the "success" message in the .pdf. Trying again now.
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Post by stustan on Feb 9, 2010 21:14:48 GMT -5
hey lonnie, Im guessing the factory reset should help with my "problems" But could you please verify what the UMC should be displaying after the update when we get the software version(mute/status/volume up) Once completed the loader software will tell you it is done but the UMC itself won't show anything. If you do the Mute, Status, Volume up sequence on the remote it will show you the firware version the unit is running which should be 5.46.07.xxxxxx. If I remember correctly the origianl release version was something like 5.43.03.xxxxxx I will attempt my update tomorrow, however, I checked my firmware tonight and got W5.40.00.02. Does that make sense....?? Do I win anything??
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Post by lonnie on Feb 9, 2010 21:15:36 GMT -5
So far, rather buggy. No problem installing software on laptop but taking me multiple times to get this to install. One time got to the end of the larger file and got a download complete note but not the "success" message in the .pdf. Trying again now. depending on your system, you may not get the success message. But if it says download complete, then it is done.
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Post by jmilton on Feb 9, 2010 21:18:06 GMT -5
Uploaded on second attempt. Relabled inputs. Xovers funky, but reset manually. EmoQ worked better second time around. Initial testing gets a thumbs up. Me likey! Now, back to Ironman inTruHD.
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Post by stormchaser on Feb 9, 2010 21:18:12 GMT -5
Lonnie, Thanks for that. In that case, it took me three attempts to succeed. Resetting inputs, Emo Q etc about to commence....
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Post by ackbar on Feb 9, 2010 21:19:41 GMT -5
I installed the update after a little bit of trouble... I have Windows 7 RC installed on my MacBook. I couldn't even get the installation to work, because I was impatient.
I went to my "ancient" XP desktop that was on the other side of the entertainment center, but I was getting "Unrecognized USB device" from Windows. It turned out, that the extension I was using to get the cable to reach the last 3 inches was junk... I found an unpowered USB hub and then the update worked like a charm. (While the old computer was doing the update, the Windows 7 computer finally popped up the proper install screen.)
Now, to something interesting... I previously had audio dropout issues with my Toshiba HD-A35 when I pause the playback, and I still have the same issues with the new update. After some debugging with The Matrix, I've come to the following conclusion. With the direct streaming of Dolby TrueHD, whenever the movie is paused, the audio will never return until I select a different audio stream or change inputs on the UMC. This *only* occurs with the Bitstream of TrueHD. DD+ is fine. If I set the A35 to decode internally and send Multichannel PCM, pausing and resuming works fine as well. One curious thing... if I pause anything other than TrueHD, the UMC says that signal was lost. If I pause a TrueHD signal, it doesn't do anything special.
Does anybody else have this kind of issue with bitstreaming TrueHD? Anybody else have an A35 with the same problem? I don't have any other source to test this with, as the PS3 does MPCM. I'm curious if this is an issue with the A35, or with the UMC.
Also, when first switching to the A35, there was HDMI handshaking problems. The A35 kept flashing the HDMI light, and the UMC locked up completely. I've read the A35 has handshaking issues, but I would expect the UMC to fail the handshake nicely, not lock up.
Other than the TrueHD issue, it seems that the UMC locks on quite fast to audio signal changes. Input changes are something completely different, though... especially with Passthrough mode.
Haven't gotten to the Emo-Q yet... that's up next.
Ackbar
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Post by lonnie on Feb 9, 2010 21:21:30 GMT -5
Uploaded on second attempt. Relabled inputs. Xovers funky, but reset manually. EmoQ worked better second time around. Initial testing gets a thumbs up. Me likey! Now, back to Ironman inTruHD. Got popcorn? ;D
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Post by Mischief on Feb 9, 2010 21:24:47 GMT -5
I can't believe I read vinyl and all channel stereo in the same post... I can understand wanting it while you are doing other things around the house but my god. OK, I know this is going to upset a few people here but here goes.
If you sit down in your listening area, have the good sense to use vinyl and turn on ALL SPEAKER STEREO, you are nuts, you are the SQ anti-Christ, you deserve to spend eternity listening to MP3's.
If you have the nuts to gripe about this, you need to save yourself a ton of money and go out and buy yourself a cheap AVR at Best Buy because that is as good as you need.
I will probably be banned and I am fine with that but at least I am making my stand. I understand problems with firmware, sq, pq, and other problems, this is an issue. LISTENING TO PRISTINE VINYL IN ALL CHANNEL STEREO IS AN AUDIOPHILE SIN!
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Post by lonnie on Feb 9, 2010 21:26:52 GMT -5
I installed the update after a little bit of trouble... I have Windows 7 RC installed on my MacBook. I couldn't even get the installation to work, because I was impatient. I went to my "ancient" XP desktop that was on the other side of the entertainment center, but I was getting "Unrecognized USB device" from Windows. It turned out, that the extension I was using to get the cable to reach the last 3 inches was junk... I found an unpowered USB hub and then the update worked like a charm. (While the old computer was doing the update, the Windows 7 computer finally popped up the proper install screen.) Now, to something interesting... I previously had audio dropout issues with my Toshiba HD-A35 when I pause the playback, and I still have the same issues with the new update. After some debugging with The Matrix, I've come to the following conclusion. With the direct streaming of Dolby TrueHD, whenever the movie is paused, the audio will never return until I select a different audio stream or change inputs on the UMC. This *only* occurs with the Bitstream of TrueHD. DD+ is fine. If I set the A35 to decode internally and send Multichannel PCM, pausing and resuming works fine as well. One curious thing... if I pause anything other than TrueHD, the UMC says that signal was lost. If I pause a TrueHD signal, it doesn't do anything special. Does anybody else have this kind of issue with bitstreaming TrueHD? Anybody else have an A35 with the same problem? I don't have any other source to test this with, as the PS3 does MPCM. I'm curious if this is an issue with the A35, or with the UMC. Also, when first switching to the A35, there was HDMI handshaking problems. The A35 kept flashing the HDMI light, and the UMC locked up completely. I've read the A35 has handshaking issues, but I would expect the UMC to fail the handshake nicely, not lock up. Other than the TrueHD issue, it seems that the UMC locks on quite fast to audio signal changes. Input changes are something completely different, though... especially with Passthrough mode. Haven't gotten to the Emo-Q yet... that's up next. Ackbar That is an interesting issue you have with the A35. We use mostly Sony Blu-rays (we have many others to test with though) and I can start and stop a true HD stream with no issues. So I would be very intersted to hear more about this as you dig into it.
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Post by lonnie on Feb 9, 2010 21:31:26 GMT -5
I can't believe I read vinyl and all channel stereo in the same post... I can understand wanting it while you are doing other things around the house but my god. OK, I know this is going to upset a few people here but here goes. If you sit down in your listening area, have the good sense to use vinyl and turn on ALL SPEAKER STEREO, you are nuts, you are the SQ anti-Christ, you deserve to spend eternity listening to MP3's. If you have the nuts to gripe about this, you need to save yourself a ton of money and go out and buy yourself a cheap AVR at Best Buy because that is as good as you need. I will probably be banned and I am fine with that but at least I am making my stand. I understand problems with firmware, sq, pq, and other problems, this is an issue. LISTENING TO PRISTINE VINYL IN ALL CHANNEL STEREO IS AN AUDIOPHILE SIN! I get the passion in what you are saying and no, your not banned, but lets be nice.
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Post by regulator on Feb 9, 2010 21:35:19 GMT -5
I can't believe I read vinyl and all channel stereo in the same post... I can understand wanting it while you are doing other things around the house but my god. OK, I know this is going to upset a few people here but here goes. If you sit down in your listening area, have the good sense to use vinyl and turn on ALL SPEAKER STEREO, you are nuts, you are the SQ anti-Christ, you deserve to spend eternity listening to MP3's. If you have the nuts to gripe about this, you need to save yourself a ton of money and go out and buy yourself a cheap AVR at Best Buy because that is as good as you need. I will probably be banned and I am fine with that but at least I am making my stand. I understand problems with firmware, sq, pq, and other problems, this is an issue. LISTENING TO PRISTINE VINYL IN ALL CHANNEL STEREO IS AN AUDIOPHILE SIN! Okay I will bite, so what exactly is so sinful about listening to vinyl in all stereo? Same as stereo except with the same output in the surround speakers right? Why is that a bad thing? What about subs? Is 2.1 with vinyl the ultimate sin?
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Post by dmillerc5 on Feb 9, 2010 21:35:34 GMT -5
Another successful upgrade !
However, it worked only after I switched to Win7-64bit for uncompressing the .rar file. Thanks for those who shared that information. Maybe this will help others:
Here is the scenario which did NOT work for me: used RAR-32 on my Win7-64 desktop, copied the .upg to my netbook and then ran the loader from there. The loader tried to update the UMC1_V102_001 code first but kept throwing the "programme control MCU fail!" error right after 2 minutes. I tried this several times. Each time downloading a fresh .rar copy (from emotiva.com). Interesting though, was the fact that if I only selected the "Umc1_HDMI_5.46.07_10020" code update, this load would finish successfully. It was just the micro controller update which would not load properly.
Here is the scenario which DID work for me: used Win7-64 on my Win7-64 desktop, copied the .upg to my netbook and then ran the loader
The ONLY variable I changed was switching to from RAR-32 to Win7-64bit. I used the same netbook running XP-pro 32bit with the same USB cable for both load scenarios.
Unfortunately I have not had time for any real testing post the successful update.
Cheers.
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Post by WhiskeyScroggins on Feb 9, 2010 21:41:16 GMT -5
Just read through all 13 pages so far. What a unique community as it seems that almost: 50% of posters have MAC's and 50% of posters don't have a laptop
Talk about opposite ends of the technology spectrum!
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Post by pitbullmike on Feb 9, 2010 21:48:05 GMT -5
I can't believe I read vinyl and all channel stereo in the same post... I can understand wanting it while you are doing other things around the house but my god. OK, I know this is going to upset a few people here but here goes. If you sit down in your listening area, have the good sense to use vinyl and turn on ALL SPEAKER STEREO, you are nuts, you are the SQ anti-Christ, you deserve to spend eternity listening to MP3's. If you have the nuts to gripe about this, you need to save yourself a ton of money and go out and buy yourself a cheap AVR at Best Buy because that is as good as you need. I will probably be banned and I am fine with that but at least I am making my stand. I understand problems with firmware, sq, pq, and other problems, this is an issue. LISTENING TO PRISTINE VINYL IN ALL CHANNEL STEREO IS AN AUDIOPHILE SIN! I dont have any vinyl so I cant comment on that but I do listen to my cd's in ALL CH STEREO. That's the way I like it, just mind your fkin business and let the rest of us listen the way we like it. Not everyone likes 2 CH and if that's an ''AUDIOPHILE SIN'' Than forgive me all mighty audiophile god for I have sinned
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Post by ratmice on Feb 9, 2010 21:54:37 GMT -5
Just read through all 13 pages so far. What a unique community as it seems that almost: 50% of posters have MAC's and 50% of posters don't have a laptop Talk about opposite ends of the technology spectrum! What if I have a Mac Laptop? What do I win?
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Post by Mischief on Feb 9, 2010 21:58:54 GMT -5
stereo recordings are just that, designed, methodically engineered, and mastered to be heard in a stereo listening environment. If you supplement with a sub, that is great, you are filling in the low end, between your speakers capability and the recordings potential. I use subs for HT and full channel 2.0 for dedicated stereo listening.
I don't have a problem with people who want to listen to various DSP's as background filler, whatever version that may be.
Where I have a problem is when someone has researched enough to know vinyl is superior ( in most cases) yet wants to sit down and listen to it in a surround DSP.
I know, you pay for it, you can do what you want... I agree... listen to it how you want...
This is the important part: If you have no respect for the format, don't buy a product that supports the sanctity of said format and then gripe. You have all speaker options here, if you gripe about those, well, you need to think about where you are going with this passion.
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Post by RSavage on Feb 9, 2010 22:04:36 GMT -5
If you have no respect for the format, don't buy a product that supports the sanctity of said format Wait till you hear how great it all sounds when you pull your head out of your .......never mind. It's frickin music.....ENJOY it however you like. There is no 'sanctity of the format'. Just a little too serious here R
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Post by Woodpecker on Feb 9, 2010 22:07:42 GMT -5
LISTENING TO PRISTINE VINYL IN ALL CHANNEL STEREO IS AN AUDIOPHILE SIN! There isn't even a phono input on the UMC... DUH!!!
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