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Post by solidstate on Feb 22, 2010 21:43:27 GMT -5
Solidstate is only trying to help by saying maybe its just something overlooked. What happened with the call or letter from Emotiva? I would call vs an email as it seems its a bad one. If you followed the instructions and it didnt work then it doesnt work.. I welcome anybodies input....but they must read through the thread first before suggesting things or implying its user error.  Sent e-mail last night (Sunday)..haven't heard anything back yet. I am still not clear if you understand the "Advanced Playback" menu adjustments are per input (as in the text label for input) at the top of that menu. Are you sure your correlating the right input label to the actual physical input? These are easy mistakes that can be very easily overlooked. I'm not implying user error I'm actually suggesting it! LOL  *nudge* *nudge* *poke* *poke* PS I wonder what happens in firmware if you map the same physical input to two different "virtual" input text labels and then adjust advanced playback differently for each what happens when say.. you have one set to direct for the analog and one set to stereo for the analog input ? hmm..... |
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Post by snodog on Feb 22, 2010 21:53:27 GMT -5
I guess Id just call tomorrow Moodyman, It sucks and if you are positive you did it correctly, Ill leave questioning your skills to solidstate lol! Let us know what they say.
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Post by moodyman on Feb 22, 2010 22:00:04 GMT -5
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Post by solidstate on Feb 22, 2010 22:02:54 GMT -5
PS I wonder what happens in firmware if you map the same physical input to two different "virtual" input text labels and then adjust advanced playback differently for each what happens when say.. you have one set to direct for the analog and one set to stereo for the analog input ? hmm.....
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Post by solidstate on Feb 22, 2010 22:04:19 GMT -5
Check to see if any other "virtual" input text labels are mapped to the same "analog 2" stereo input... worth a chance and great photos by the way! LOL (your no Luddite and my faith has increased ten fold) owh wait your the REQ guy with an Earthworks M30 right? LOL foot in mouth... (you lucky guy I want that mic sooo bad!)
Yeah I guess you could check to see if any of the other input labels are mapped to analog 2.
I wonder if it's even possible to assign the same physical input to two different virtual input text labels and if possible I wonder how the Advanced Playback post processing source type auto selecting would work if two virtual inputs are mapped to the same physical input and each has different Advanced Playback post processing auto audio processing mode settings. For example on set to direct for analog and one set to stereo for analog. What I am saying here related to trying to understand and debug the current state a bunch of registers are set in unit firmware. I'd try a master reset and remap inputs a little differently following the physical boxed text label virtual input defaults as closely as possible. It's obviously a software bug.
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Post by lonnie on Feb 22, 2010 22:12:47 GMT -5
PS I wonder what happens in firmware if you map the same physical input to two different "virtual" input text labels and then adjust advanced playback differently for each what happens when say.. you have one set to direct for the analog and one set to stereo for the analog input ? hmm..... This is not a problem. You can assign multiple inputs to the same physical input jacks with no issues. ;D |
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Post by moe on Feb 22, 2010 22:18:34 GMT -5
Solidstate is only trying to help by saying maybe its just something overlooked. What happened with the call or letter from Emotiva? I would call vs an email as it seems its a bad one. If you followed the instructions and it didnt work then it doesnt work.. I welcome anybodies input....but they must read through the thread first before suggesting things or implying its user error. Sent e-mail last night (Sunday)..haven't heard anything back yet. When you sent an email to support they'll see it,good idea.They will take that info and try to recreate the issue,it may take a few days though. |
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Post by solidstate on Feb 22, 2010 22:25:08 GMT -5
PS I wonder what happens in firmware if you map the same physical input to two different "virtual" input text labels and then adjust advanced playback differently for each what happens when say.. you have one set to direct for the analog and one set to stereo for the analog input ? hmm..... This is not a problem. You can assign multiple inputs to the same physical input jacks with no issues. ;D I only wonder lonnie... with regards to "Advanced Playback" auto audio post processing mode selection based on stream type... what if two of the virtual inputs differ here in those variables and mapped to same physical input? How does firmware decided which to use? as in say virtual input 5's "Advanced Playback" is set to "stereo" audio post processing mode for "Analog" and also input 6 (using same physical input say analog stereo section 2) is set under "Advanced Playback" for "Analog" "direct" audio post processing mode on auto audio post-processing ("Advanced Playback" %vars%)? What happens then Lonnie? Is it hierarchic based on input number or something? Sounds like fun debug in microcode/firmware to me! I guess it shouldn't even matter as the "Advanced Playback" auto post processing mode selection is a per input thing and not global like everyone else implements. Way to go there I'm sure with the bugs ironed out it will be a fantastic feature I don't believe anyone else has! I still wonder though if it's simply not a bug because looking at his setup he's remapped CD and renamed it CD A and it could be still analog section 2 boxed defaults because when I look at the silk screen in pdf I can see this is the default text label for that physical input so I assume it's the "boxed" defaults. I bet a master reset and a little bit different mapping of inputs using the boxed defaults to physical inputs would fix issue. I try to follow boxed physical input defaults to avoid these issues and in the end then rename them to my own or customers desired text labels. It's the smartest thing to do and avoids firmware bugs PS it's nice to hear your voice! |
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Post by bobbart on Feb 23, 2010 5:29:47 GMT -5
I have the problem and it doesn't matter if it was analog or digital. I used test tones on a cd player connected thru analog and thru my ps3 connected with the optical cable. The subwoofer eq never worked manually. I'm sure moodyman has tried everything to get it to work, just as I did. I had mine rma'd for this reason. As of yesterday they have had it for one week and it is still not fixed.
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Post by moodyman on Feb 23, 2010 7:52:53 GMT -5
Lonnie has responded to my e-mail and Emotiva is working on the issues. This thread has run its course and if the mods want to lock it thats fine with me....
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Post by Delaney on Feb 23, 2010 8:30:20 GMT -5
Lonnie has responded to my e-mail and Emotiva is working on the issues. This thread has run its course and if the mods want to lock it thats fine with me.... Great news. I expected Lonnie to iron this one out, but great news nonetheless. |
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Post by saginawjuggalo on Feb 26, 2010 1:30:35 GMT -5
Yes, great news! It would be nice to see this addressed in the "The definitive UMC-1 status page from Big Dan" thread. I never did get around to calling  |
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Post by moodyman on Feb 26, 2010 8:46:22 GMT -5
Yes, great news! It would be nice to see this addressed in the "The definitive UMC-1 status page from Big Dan" thread. I never did get around to calling It was...dan mentioned the sub xovers not being saved...lonnie stated that this was in reference to the sub EQ not working too... |
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Post by solidstate on Feb 27, 2010 12:47:54 GMT -5
I just took shipment of Clearwave Loudspeaker's Dynamic kit and have 7 UPA-1s and a UMC-1 coming. I'm also going to build a sub kit from Rythmik. The sub eq thing will affect my purchasing decision with Rythmik because I intended to get the non PEQ plate amp and get the XLR model because of EmoQ sub eqing... rethinking this and holding out on sub order due to it...
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Post by snodog on Feb 27, 2010 15:21:19 GMT -5
Those are really nice looking speakers solidstate, what finish did you get?
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Post by saginawjuggalo on Feb 28, 2010 12:59:22 GMT -5
Yes, great news! It would be nice to see this addressed in the "The definitive UMC-1 status page from Big Dan" thread. I never did get around to calling It was...dan mentioned the sub xovers not being saved...lonnie stated that this was in reference to the sub EQ not working too... I'm positive Lonnie doesn't make threads under Dan Laufman's screenname, so you must be referring to the webcast? I'm sure I wasn't the only one that didn't have 32:42mins just to look for a 10 second audio clip... but thanks for the unclear tip. Now that it's a slow Sunday I will go ahead and listen. I am sure it is safe to assume this is being addressed seeing as how they are working on Emo-Q but I still feel it would be reassuring for customers had this been mentioned specifically in the definitive UMC-1 status page. The closest thing that stands out to me from Dan's words are: "crossover freq and sub-woofer level problem" and "EQs not being applied to all modes consistently" ....but again, nothing was specifically addressing my (and other customers) problem of "Sub EQ" not working under any mode. Just incase anybody in power wants to take note: My unit holds the speaker and subwoofer levels after many power cycles under the newest firmware... I didn't bother EQing the speakers once I found out that the Sub-EQ wasn't working, so I have no input on that problem. |
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Post by moodyman on Feb 28, 2010 16:00:29 GMT -5
It was...dan mentioned the sub xovers not being saved...lonnie stated that this was in reference to the sub EQ not working too... I'm positive Lonnie doesn't make threads under Dan Laufman's screenname, so you must be referring to the webcast? I'm sure I wasn't the only one that didn't have 32:42mins just to look for a 10 second audio clip... but thanks for the unclear tip. Now that it's a slow Sunday I will go ahead and listen. I am sure it is safe to assume this is being addressed seeing as how they are working on Emo-Q but I still feel it would be reassuring for customers had this been mentioned specifically in the definitive UMC-1 status page. The closest thing that stands out to me from Dan's words are: "crossover freq and sub-woofer level problem" and "EQs not being applied to all modes consistently" ....but again, nothing was specifically addressing my (and other customers) problem of "Sub EQ" not working under any mode. Just incase anybody in power wants to take note: My unit holds the speaker and subwoofer levels after many power cycles under the newest firmware... I didn't bother EQing the speakers once I found out that the Sub-EQ wasn't working, so I have no input on that problem. Check replies 151 and 153 on this thread... emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=preamps&action=display&thread=9682&page=8 |
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Post by ntrain42 on Mar 13, 2010 16:32:11 GMT -5
Hmmm, I have to add, when using analog inputs set to STEREO the sub low pass xover and eq does not work for mine either. So is it determined that this is a firmware issue?
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Post by moodyman on Mar 13, 2010 17:25:12 GMT -5
Hmmm, I have to add, when using analog inputs set to STEREO the sub low pass xover and eq does not work for mine either. So is it determined that this is a firmware issue? The sub EQ is definately an issue which Emotiva has said will be corrected in the next FW update. The sub xover is more problematic. The sub low pass xover may only work for the LFE channel..which is the case for some other receivers. This would explain why it wasn't working for me. I have no LFE specific test tones.I have asked for confirmation as to how the sub xover is implemented but I haven't heard anything yet. The sub woofer test tone in the UMC may go through the LFE channel. Unfortunately I returned my UMC before I could check it this way. Maybe somebody else running REW could look into it. |
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Post by ntrain42 on Mar 13, 2010 17:55:10 GMT -5
Dumb question, but what is REW?
Also I have some specific discs that play full bandwidth pinknoise, so I have confirmed the sub EQ and xover dont function at all.
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