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Post by Nemesis.ie on May 24, 2010 16:04:20 GMT -5
I have both types in the chain and both work, the mystery continues.  |
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Post by ghstudio on May 24, 2010 18:45:13 GMT -5
I haven't taken the time to look, but all trigger circuits have a maximum output, usually some milli-amps....and each device you connect has a power draw, the sum of which has to be less than the maximum output. Have you added up the power draw of the trigger circuits of the amps? Maybe you should split them over two triggers. This sounds very much like you are trying to pull too much power from the triggers. Also remember that ratings are based on average draw....the intial turn on surge of the trigger circuit in an amp may be higher than what you see in the specs.
Don't just assume that a trigger circuit will trigger as many devices as you have.....
This problem is not caused by stereo cables....
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Post by cdpsrjc on May 24, 2010 19:19:30 GMT -5
:-) Initially my LPA-1 would start to power up, go through the self check on the first 5 channels and immediately power off at 5. After I manually powered it on, it wouldn't power off from the trigger either. For me, the solution was a trip to Rat Shack and a mono cable. The problem never reappeared. Indeed, the mystery continues.
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Post by jmargaglione on May 24, 2010 21:43:23 GMT -5
jmargaglione, What cable type are you using for the trigger (stereo or mono). I recall someone mentioning some problems with some stereo cables. As I understand it, only mono cables should be used. I would try another cable just to be sure. oat07, I am using the cable provided with the UMC-1. I also used a mono cable that worked great with the Denon receiver that was in the system before the UMC-1. In fact I started with that cable, and when it didn't work I changed to the one in the UMC-1 box. Let me see if I have any others around and I'll give them a whirl. I also noticed that the amp isn't fully making it through its startup before being powered off. It makes it through 4 of the 5 channels usually. |
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Post by oat07 on May 24, 2010 22:27:28 GMT -5
jmargaglioneI am still awaiting the arrival of my UMC-1 so I am not speaking from experience, but I would try temporarily unplugging the speaker terminals for the amps that are not completing the POST (Power on Self Test). The trigger or the speaker cable could be causing the issue, but I would buy a mono cable from Radio Shack to try. If it still fails, you can return the cable. Lastly, if the amps powers up completely via the power button then the trigger could be causing the amp to power down prematurely. Just some thoughts. Keep us posted.
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Post by basicsystem on May 26, 2010 23:22:50 GMT -5
I just got my UMC-1 today. I really haven't had a chance to fully check it out, but I can confirm the trigger problem noted here. I can replicate it on a XPA-2 and an EMC-1. It seems to start the other device and then shut it down.
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Post by monkumonku on May 26, 2010 23:27:02 GMT -5
I just got my UMC-1 today. I really haven't had a chance to fully check it out, but I can confirm the trigger problem noted here. I can replicate it on a XPA-2 and an EMC-1. It seems to start the other device and then shut it down. Did you run setup and assign the trigger outlet for the specific inputs you are using? Because if you don't do that, the trigger will shut off. For each input, you have to tell it which trigger to use. |
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Post by basicsystem on May 26, 2010 23:54:35 GMT -5
Thank you (I am dumb). That is probably exactly what is happening to me (and the others).
I don't have my new TV hooked up yet and I have not gone through the setup (I am in no hurry). I didn't think the triggers would be a setup item and then I found the previous posts ...
I don't want people to think the UMC-1 is problematic. I like what I seen so far very much ...
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Post by rgarza3 on May 27, 2010 13:16:01 GMT -5
I have just placed my UMC-1 into service. I find the unit "buggy" at best and unusable at its worse. The problems are several to include an inaccurate and unreliable EmoQ, frequent system lockups requiring restarts (unplug/replug), loss of signal recognition with DVR channel selections, loss of proper decoding to include changes in relative channel volumes and poor response to any remote (provided, Harmony etc). Upgrading the firmware initially helped but problems have recurred. I want to embrace this piece but it's not ready for primetime. Without significant improvement in its functionality, I will need to return it. Any more suggestions Emotiva?
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Post by bborzell on May 28, 2010 7:00:47 GMT -5
I've noticed that the "Emotiva Comment" column hasn't been utilized by Emotiva. Is there any reason to believe that using this thread to report issues will result in review and comment by Emotiva technical support?
I am sure that some of the issues reported in this thread have been addressed in the FW updates thus far. However, seeing the list of "issues" grow with little or no determination of whether anyone's specific issue is user error, known compatibility problem with a specific component in an audio/video equipment chain or an issue that is being addressed by FW would not only be helpful to UMC-1 owners, it might also defuse some of the "Ready, Fire, Aim" postings we have seen lately describing "damage" caused by the UMC-1 or just plain frustration at not knowing what is going on for the folks who are having problems getting their UMC-1 to meet theri expectations.
The only issue I have left is an inability to get PLIIx to work (7.1) through HDMI for BD movies that have DTS-MA. In reality, all that really means is that the PLIIx option in the mode menu becomes inactive and my rear UPA-2 turns on but never gets any audio signal.
I'd simply like to know if the inactive PLIIx menu under these circumstances is a known problem and what can be done to fix it.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on May 28, 2010 7:31:16 GMT -5
Have you tried setting DTS-ES for the DTS master option and see if that works?
I have DD EX or DTS ES set for the higher quality ones rather than PLIIx and it seems to enable the BS speakers.
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Post by bborzell on May 28, 2010 8:20:15 GMT -5
Have you tried setting DTS-ES for the DTS master option and see if that works? I have DD EX or DTS ES set for the higher quality ones rather than PLIIx and it seems to enable the BS speakers. I haven't tried EX or ES primarily because I spoke to Lonnie who told me that PLIIx should work with DTS-MA. Based upon that conversation, I've been winding my way through all the various setup options to see how I might arrive at the outcome that he said was possible. Since you are using EX and ES for DTS-MA, am I correct in assuming that you have not been successful getting PLIIx to work with DTS-MA? I will give both ES and EX a try. Thanks for the suggestion. |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on May 28, 2010 9:38:14 GMT -5
Have you tried setting DTS-ES for the DTS master option and see if that works? I have DD EX or DTS ES set for the higher quality ones rather than PLIIx and it seems to enable the BS speakers. I haven't tried EX or ES primarily because I spoke to Lonnie who told me that PLIIx should work with DTS-MA. Based upon that conversation, I've been winding my way through all the various setup options to see how I might arrive at the outcome that he said was possible. Since you are using EX and ES for DTS-MA, am I correct in assuming that you have not been successful getting PLIIx to work with DTS-MA? I will give both ES and EX a try. Thanks for the suggestion. Actually I was wrong, I am using them for DD and DTS, the MA and HD do not have ES and EX options listed. Sorry! I have PLIIx for the HD ones and it seemed to work last time I checked. |
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Post by SticknStones on May 28, 2010 9:54:08 GMT -5
I've noticed that the "Emotiva Comment" column hasn't been utilized by Emotiva. Is there any reason to believe that using this thread to report issues will result in review and comment by Emotiva technical support? I am sure that some of the issues reported in this thread have been addressed in the FW updates thus far. However, seeing the list of "issues" grow with little or no determination of whether anyone's specific issue is user error, known compatibility problem with a specific component in an audio/video equipment chain or an issue that is being addressed by FW would not only be helpful to UMC-1 owners, it might also defuse some of the "Ready, Fire, Aim" postings we have seen lately describing "damage" caused by the UMC-1 or just plain frustration at not knowing what is going on for the folks who are having problems getting their UMC-1 to meet theri expectations. The only issue I have left is an inability to get PLIIx to work (7.1) through HDMI for BD movies that have DTS-MA. In reality, all that really means is that the PLIIx option in the mode menu becomes inactive and my rear UPA-2 turns on but never gets any audio signal. I'd simply like to know if the inactive PLIIx menu under these circumstances is a known problem and what can be done to fix it. I spoke with Lonnie last week and they are using the list but instead of commenting on the tracker SS they are using their Bugzilla to internally work through things. They have been very complimentary that we as forum members have been working together to provide a consolidated list of needs. Please keep using this as Emotiva is using it too. |
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Post by wfdtamar on Jun 1, 2010 16:59:34 GMT -5
I've been keeping my eye on the UMC-1 saga waiting for it to be sorted enough to buy (being in Australia I really don't want to have to ship it back for any fix). Can't work out if it's safe yet.
Looking at getting an XPA-5 and X Series interconnects. Should I get the RCA cables or Digital/Coaxial cables? Apart from the Ohm rating and how they're made, I can't see any difference or guide as to what their appropriate application might be.
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Post by rgarza3 on Jun 2, 2010 18:06:34 GMT -5
The UMC-1 is still locking up with cable DVR channel surfing. This despite installing the latest (beta) firmware. When working, the unit's sound quality is quite good and the video upscaling is acceptable. I really like the feel of the unit and have the sense that it can be saved with further development. It just frustrates to keep unplugging and replugging.
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Post by ackbar on Jun 2, 2010 22:15:33 GMT -5
The UMC-1 is still locking up with cable DVR channel surfing. This despite installing the latest (beta) firmware. When working, the unit's sound quality is quite good and the video upscaling is acceptable. I really like the feel of the unit and have the sense that it can be saved with further development. It just frustrates to keep unplugging and replugging. I still have the same issue with complete lockups when changing between channel resolutions. However, I never had to unplug the power. Just hold the blue "power" button for about 5 seconds or so and it turns off. -Jeremy |
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Post by dragonV on Jun 13, 2010 21:32:34 GMT -5
Hi guys,
Had my first ever issue with my UMC-1 today. Upgraded to version 7 beta firmware upon its release (maybe should have left it alone:)
Anyway unit has been brilliant, great sound and picture for the last couple of days, as it was with version 6. Unfortunately when I got up this morning and switched it on with remote, it had lost all its settings.
Had to do everything all over again like it decided to set itself back to default.
Ouch.
I will keep an eye on it over the coming days, hopefully just a one off. If anyone else gets this issue could you please advise so I know its firmware and not a hardware issue. I'm thinking its firmware as never did it on beta 6 firmware. Strange as I remember the power button 'blinking' when shutting down as it always does when saving settings. Anyone got any theories as to why it would do this???
Still love the unit, hopefully a one off.
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Post by SticknStones on Jun 14, 2010 20:12:09 GMT -5
Why didn't you guys wake me. Okay I added the V7 Beta 3 to versions. ;D
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Post by jimsfield on Jun 15, 2010 7:49:31 GMT -5
We didn't know you were asleep. You have to tell us when you are so we'll know to wake you up.
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