Well I'm going ahead with the purchase tomorrow, was going to wait for the 15's, but if these two 12's don't cut it, I'll regulate them for rear service and add two Xref 15's later, can't wait for the release of the 15's as my theatre is done in a few weeks.
Received my X-Ref 10 Friday night, set it up on Saturday for a 2-channel system in a room 17x13x11.
All I can say is this little bugger kicks some ass!
Tight and musical!
Oh, it gets loud and vibrates the room, too.
Your room is considerably larger than my 11'x13' room and I was thinking of getting the X-Ref 12, which would probably be overkill in my 2.1 system. I want to be able to hear the music over the bass... Maybe I should go with the X-Ref 10 or would even that be overkill in my small room?
I don't know your room, but in my case I find the X-Ref 10 to be more than adequete for a 2.1 system. YMMV.
Both the 10 and 12 have very flexible set-up options so you could most likely make the X-Ref 12 work as well.
Yeah, suppose so. Am currently debating between the X-Ref 12 and the SVS SB12-NSD, but have determined I will need to upgrade my receiver first as the current one (ancient Pioneer VSX-5300) has no dedicated sub output and the two subs up for consideration don't have speaker-level inputs. Anyone see why an Outlaw Audio RR2150 wouldn't be a good match for either of these subs? I am going for a decent 2.1 system primarily for music and the RR2150 would seem to be the ticket with its bass management circuit.
Curious if anyone has some new light to shed on the series.
I'm not a sub expert but the x-refs so far are phenemenol. tight, articulate warm bass, no burping even on the loud passages. A huge improvement from my old Mirage dual sub. Still putting it through its paces though
Received my X-ref 10 last week and so far has met and exceeded all my expectations. Other subs at the holiday sale price point simply cannot compete for music playback - as others have said this thing produces very accurate, tight, clean bass - from a very small package. Home theater it doesn't struggle with either. Even took it over to my parents house for turkey day where my dad put it through its paces with some organ music - after which I was afraid he wasn't going give it back.
I'm using it in a 18x21x9 great room in my condo which it fills far better then I would have expected and is plenty for my needs.
About the only thing I'd suggest is some sort of finger indentation on the dial to make turning it multiple revolutions at once easier - again in no way should this detract anyone from getting this sub.
Right now, I'm finding myself pondering the idea of replacing my dual Epik Valors (15" - sealed boxes) with a smaller, yet capable sub and seriously considering a pair of XRef 12s or (after reading all of the positive reviews) possibly XRef 10s.
My Epiks have served me well as they have "bridged" the gap between a good HT subwoofer while still maintaining good musical composure.
Now, my tastes have changed and I'm finding myself gravitating back more towards listening to music and that "shake the foundation" movie explosion is no longer as important as a good "hit in the chest" kick drum sensation or the quick "slap" of a bass guitar string.
So, I'm asking the subwoofer enthusiasts out there for their learned opinion.... given that my interests are 80% music/20% HT, which would be the most preferred in a room that is approximately 13'x16'x7.5' and acoustically treated? Which model (XRef 12 or XRef 10) would give me that "tight, quick and musically powerful" response that I'm after? Remember, I'm buying a pair.....
If I actually make this purchase, I may have a pair of Epik Valors and possibly a (now discontinued and much sought after) SVS AS-EQ1 for sale..... ;D
Media Room: Marantz AV8805 (XMC-1v3 officially retired) Emotiva XSP-1 G2 Emotiva DC-1 Emotiva ERC-3 Emotiva XPA-DR2/XPA-9 Emotiva Airmotiv T2 (L/R); C2 (Center); E2/E1 (FX) Power Sound Audio S1512 Subwoofers (w/ MiniDSP 2x4 HD) Mac Mini/Audirvana (via DC-1) Technics SL-1500C/Nagaoka MP-200/Vincent PHO-8 Panasonic DP-UB9000 TiVo Mini 4K ATV 4K LG OLED65C6P
Living Room: LG OLED55C6P ATV 4K Oppo UDP-203 TiVo Bolt
Post by roadrunner on Nov 29, 2011 21:16:31 GMT -5
With a room as small as yours, the X-Ref 10 subs are a perfect fit with your stated usage. You are going to like how musical these little subs gems are. A pair of these should put you on cloud nine. The DSP modes will allow you to tune them to your room and allow a better blend with your other speakers.