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Post by ribbonking on Sept 11, 2011 20:21:23 GMT -5
Sorry, double post.....but it's double good!
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Post by ribbonking on Sept 11, 2011 20:21:39 GMT -5
Received my X-Ref 10 Friday night, set it up on Saturday for a 2-channel system in a room 17x13x11.
All I can say is this little bugger kicks some ass!
Tight and musical!
Oh, it gets loud and vibrates the room, too.
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Post by roadrunner on Sept 11, 2011 20:26:13 GMT -5
Ribbonking
You liked your new sub woofer so much that you posted the same review twice. Was that because you were testing them in a 2-channel system? ;D
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Post by ribbonking on Sept 11, 2011 20:27:21 GMT -5
Ribbonking You liked your new sub woofer so much that you posted the same review twice. Was that because you were testing them in a 2-channel system? ;D YES! Operator error, my apologies. |
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Post by r1lee on Sept 11, 2011 21:04:46 GMT -5
Well I'm going ahead with the purchase tomorrow, was going to wait for the 15's, but if these two 12's don't cut it, I'll regulate them for rear service and add two Xref 15's later, can't wait for the release of the 15's as my theatre is done in a few weeks.
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Post by tuck0411 on Sept 12, 2011 19:55:46 GMT -5
Received my X-Ref 10 Friday night, set it up on Saturday for a 2-channel system in a room 17x13x11. All I can say is this little bugger kicks some ass! Tight and musical! Oh, it gets loud and vibrates the room, too. Your room is considerably larger than my 11'x13' room and I was thinking of getting the X-Ref 12, which would probably be overkill in my 2.1 system. I want to be able to hear the music over the bass... Maybe I should go with the X-Ref 10 or would even that be overkill in my small room? |
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Post by ribbonking on Sept 12, 2011 22:14:58 GMT -5
I don't know your room, but in my case I find the X-Ref 10 to be more than adequete for a 2.1 system. YMMV.
Both the 10 and 12 have very flexible set-up options so you could most likely make the X-Ref 12 work as well.
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Post by tuck0411 on Sept 12, 2011 22:23:51 GMT -5
I don't know your room, but in my case I find the X-Ref 10 to be more than adequete for a 2.1 system. YMMV. Both the 10 and 12 have very flexible set-up options so you could most likely make the X-Ref 12 work as well. Yeah, suppose so. Am currently debating between the X-Ref 12 and the SVS SB12-NSD, but have determined I will need to upgrade my receiver first as the current one (ancient Pioneer VSX-5300) has no dedicated sub output and the two subs up for consideration don't have speaker-level inputs. Anyone see why an Outlaw Audio RR2150 wouldn't be a good match for either of these subs? I am going for a decent 2.1 system primarily for music and the RR2150 would seem to be the ticket with its bass management circuit. |
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Post by coudepoulet on Sept 21, 2011 1:39:01 GMT -5
the x-ref 12 Should be 12 or 24 db in the menu "sub xover Slopes" of the UMC-1?
Thank you in advance.
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Post by rachel on Oct 4, 2011 15:26:03 GMT -5
Hey everyone, I just updated the X-Ref 10 & 12 webpages with acoustic response plots and some example EQ responses: X-Ref 10: emotiva.com/xref_sub10.shtmX-Ref 12: emotiva.com/xref_sub12.shtmLinks to the plots are located in the SPECS section near the bottom of the page. Thanks! ;D |
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Post by geebo on Oct 4, 2011 15:35:59 GMT -5
Hey everyone, I just updated the X-Ref 10 & 12 webpages with acoustic response plots and some example EQ responses: X-Ref 10: emotiva.com/xref_sub10.shtmX-Ref 12: emotiva.com/xref_sub12.shtmLinks to the plots are located in the SPECS section near the bottom of the page. Thanks! ;D Cool and thanks! Any idea when we might see a manual? |
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Post by rachel on Oct 5, 2011 8:37:45 GMT -5
Hey everyone, I just updated the X-Ref 10 & 12 webpages with acoustic response plots and some example EQ responses: X-Ref 10: emotiva.com/xref_sub10.shtmX-Ref 12: emotiva.com/xref_sub12.shtmLinks to the plots are located in the SPECS section near the bottom of the page. Thanks! ;D Cool and thanks! Any idea when we might see a manual? Soon, we'll let you know on here when ready  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 17:39:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, Rachel. I am still in the evaluation phase with my dual X-ref 12s, but so far, ;D ;D ;D ;D  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by pop on Oct 26, 2011 21:34:15 GMT -5
Curious if anyone has some new light to shed on the series.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 19:39:31 GMT -5
Curious if anyone has some new light to shed on the series. I'm not a sub expert but the x-refs so far are phenemenol. tight, articulate warm bass, no burping even on the loud passages. A huge improvement from my old Mirage dual sub. Still putting it through its paces though |
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Post by geebo on Oct 28, 2011 20:47:32 GMT -5
+1. I like it very much with music. I've only given it a workout with one movie (Battle Los Angeles) and it handled it very well.
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Post by Dwayland on Nov 20, 2011 16:58:07 GMT -5
Just in case anyone was interested. Here is a short, video I shot at Emofest 2011, showing the functionality of the X-Ref Control Panel.
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Post by seachaz on Nov 29, 2011 15:42:37 GMT -5
Received my X-ref 10 last week and so far has met and exceeded all my expectations. Other subs at the holiday sale price point simply cannot compete for music playback - as others have said this thing produces very accurate, tight, clean bass - from a very small package. Home theater it doesn't struggle with either. Even took it over to my parents house for turkey day where my dad put it through its paces with some organ music - after which I was afraid he wasn't going give it back.
I'm using it in a 18x21x9 great room in my condo which it fills far better then I would have expected and is plenty for my needs.
About the only thing I'd suggest is some sort of finger indentation on the dial to make turning it multiple revolutions at once easier - again in no way should this detract anyone from getting this sub.
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Post by doc1963 on Nov 29, 2011 20:24:00 GMT -5
Thanks for that information Seachaz. Right now, I'm finding myself pondering the idea of replacing my dual Epik Valors (15" - sealed boxes) with a smaller, yet capable sub and seriously considering a pair of XRef 12s or (after reading all of the positive reviews) possibly XRef 10s. My Epiks have served me well as they have "bridged" the gap between a good HT subwoofer while still maintaining good musical composure. Now, my tastes have changed and I'm finding myself gravitating back more towards listening to music and that "shake the foundation" movie explosion is no longer as important as a good "hit in the chest" kick drum sensation or the quick "slap" of a bass guitar string. So, I'm asking the subwoofer enthusiasts out there for their learned opinion.... given that my interests are 80% music/20% HT, which would be the most preferred in a room that is approximately 13'x16'x7.5' and acoustically treated? Which model (XRef 12 or XRef 10) would give me that "tight, quick and musically powerful" response that I'm after? Remember, I'm buying a pair..... If I actually make this purchase, I may have a pair of Epik Valors and possibly a (now discontinued and much sought after) SVS AS-EQ1 for sale..... ;D |
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Post by roadrunner on Nov 29, 2011 21:16:31 GMT -5
Doc1963
With a room as small as yours, the X-Ref 10 subs are a perfect fit with your stated usage. You are going to like how musical these little subs gems are. A pair of these should put you on cloud nine. The DSP modes will allow you to tune them to your room and allow a better blend with your other speakers.
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