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Post by suffolk112000 on Apr 13, 2013 18:26:51 GMT -5
Well, that's great IF that's the case. I'd be surprised if they have addressed everything as their will always be a few people that will never be happy. We shall see I guess. |
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Post by avaddikt on Apr 13, 2013 19:37:00 GMT -5
Well, that's great IF that's the case. I'd be surprised if they have addressed everything as their will always be a few people that will never be happy. We shall see I guess. Based on previous experiences with Oppo I would be surprised if they did not address what they claim. Of course some of the changes would make no difference to me and how I use it in my system. |
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Post by billmac on Apr 13, 2013 21:03:36 GMT -5
The DAC of the Oppo BDP-103 is nowhere nearly as good as that of the Emotiva UMC-200. Unless perhaps your room acoustics are to die for, even the vastly superior Oppo BDP-105 cannot touch the sound quality of the UMC-200 because the latter has Emo-Q Gen 2. That is why I love my UMC-200 like no tomorrow. ;D Really? Have you heard both the 103 and the 105 or even had them in your system? If not you really have no idea which sounds better. *edit: This post was moved from the "New UMC-200 Review" thread due to being of topic. My question to yves was regarding his claim that the DACs in the Oppo 103 were "nowhere nearly as good" as those in the UMC-200. I asked if yves had not had either the 103 or the 105 in his system how would he know the DACs of the UMC-200 were superior to the 103's. My question was not asking if he heard a difference between the DACs in the 103 and the 105. In the future I will make sure my posts are worded better so to not deemed off topic for a specific thread  .*Bill |
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Post by tank45 on Apr 21, 2013 9:38:26 GMT -5
Picked up a 103 yesterday and set it up using split HDMI method. Lip sync issues forced me to set a 16ms delay on my AVR and it is close, but not perfect, to solving it. I saw jmiltons post from December stating that the beta firmware solved his lip sync, and that it was released as official firmware so I presume that is what my player is running as it prompted me to update after I connected it to my lan. I'll keep looking for an answer and will most likely contact Oppo this week.
I tested with Avatar and Red Tails and watched Life of Pi last night. The PQ difference between the Oppo and my LG player is incredible. I had to readjust the TV settings to make it look like a movie rather than a soap opera.
I've done numerous searches to determine if I want to try hooking my Comcast 8300 box into the Oppo but have yet to find anything written that indicates that it is worthwhile. Anyone do any A/B testing to see if the PQ is improved by doing this and if it is worth the extra button presses?
After one movie I'm pretty happy with the purchase. Will run some music through it later to see how that performs.
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Post by tank45 on Apr 23, 2013 8:47:46 GMT -5
I ran the cable TV box through the Oppo and compared it to running it through the AVR... can't say I saw any difference whatsoever. So there you have it, I answered my own question. Haven't yet called Oppo regarding the lip sync though.
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Post by billmac on Apr 23, 2013 9:20:03 GMT -5
I ran the cable TV box through the Oppo and compared it to running it through the AVR... can't say I saw any difference whatsoever. So there you have it, I answered my own question. Haven't yet called Oppo regarding the lip sync though. I haven't tried running my cable through my 103 as I'm fine with the PQ. I don't have any lip sync issues when playing Blu-Rays or DVDs. I'm not familiar with your AVR but can you disable all video processing to see if that is causing the delay? If you are a member of AVS you could try posting in the 103 thread linked below. Possibly someone in that thread has the same or similar Yamaha AVR that you have and can help you out. I would give Oppo a call as well. www.avsforum.com/t/1432162/official-oppo-bdp-103-owners-threadBill |
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Post by tank45 on Apr 23, 2013 12:35:15 GMT -5
I tried what you said, no joy. Called Oppo and they had me adjust a few things regarding video processing within the TV itself. Again, no joy. So I adjusted the lipsync delay in the AVR and seem to have evened it out at 60ms. The Oppo guy said that was really all I could do. Essentially, problem is solved. Thank you for your suggestions. Incredible picture from this machine though.. wow.
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Apr 23, 2013 13:12:28 GMT -5
(Maybe) dumb question time:
If I get an OPPO 103, and connect its HDMI 1 output directly to my surround processor's Blu-ray input, and set it to 'pass-through' with no video signal adjustment at all, is that the same (just as good) as just a direct connection to my HDTV?
In other words, the OPPO's HDMI 1 output is the one with the best video chip behind it, right?
And the HDMI 2 output is recommended for use for audio output in the case of a HDMI 1 direct connection to the HDTV (usually with non-3D ready processors).
I'd prefer using only one HDMI connection, and set the processor to a straight pass-through. Any disadvantage in that (at all?) vs. going with an OPPO to HDTV direct connection in THAT case?
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Post by billmac on Apr 23, 2013 16:42:38 GMT -5
(Maybe) dumb question time: If I get an OPPO 103, and connect its HDMI 1 output directly to my surround processor's Blu-ray input, and set it to 'pass-through' with no video signal adjustment at all, is that the same (just as good) as just a direct connection to my HDTV? In other words, the OPPO's HDMI 1 output is the one with the best video chip behind it, right? And the HDMI 2 output is recommended for use for audio output in the case of a HDMI 1 direct connection to the HDTV (usually with non-3D ready processors). I'd prefer using only one HDMI connection, and set the processor to a straight pass-through. Any disadvantage in that (at all?) vs. going with an OPPO to HDTV direct connection in THAT case? Not a dumb question at all. If you are a member of AVS you could ask your questions in the 8801 or the 103 threads linked below. I would tend to believe the 8801 has a straight video pass through. www.avsforum.com/t/1431914/marantz-av8801-preamp-processor-official-owners-threadwww.avsforum.com/t/1432162/official-oppo-bdp-103-owners-threadBill |
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Post by TUGA Audiophile on Apr 23, 2013 16:54:16 GMT -5
AVS is proudly sponsored by: EMOTIVA and OPPO and mutch more...  |
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Post by TUGA Audiophile on Apr 23, 2013 17:08:23 GMT -5
(Maybe) dumb question time: If I get an OPPO 103, and connect its HDMI 1 output directly to my surround processor's Blu-ray input, and set it to 'pass-through' with no video signal adjustment at all, is that the same (just as good) as just a direct connection to my HDTV? - NO! In other words, the OPPO's HDMI 1 output is the one with the best video chip behind it, right? - YES! And the HDMI 2 output is recommended for use for audio output in the case of a HDMI 1 direct connection to the HDTV (usually with non-3D ready processors). - YES! |
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Post by billmac on May 4, 2013 8:43:57 GMT -5
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Post by eclypse on Jun 22, 2013 15:05:54 GMT -5
Is anyone connecting a HTPC into the Oppo 103's HDMI input? I just did a test earlier and it worked though I don't have any audio programs yet to test if it sounds ok playing high res flac music yet.
The connection is from a AMD video card's HDMI out. So no idea how that's gona work if its gona send out all the digital audio formats or what.
The system was in the bed room but today I thought what the hell? Go for it and see what happends.
No time to play as the wife has me away at some festival today. :/
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Post by ron526 on Jun 23, 2013 21:33:21 GMT -5
Hi, Have my 103 outputting 2.1(via 7.1 outputs) into UMC-200, via 7.1 inputs.
How do I control the sub/.1 volume?
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Post by spyrelx on Nov 25, 2013 9:25:02 GMT -5
Hello everyone,
I’m hoping you can provide some advice. I am currently using an old Emotiva MMC-1 processor and a Panasonic Projector and I’m thinking of buying an Oppo 103 -- and I’m trying to figure out best connections.
I’ll be using the Oppo to play:
1. regular and BlueRay DVDs
2. regular and HDCDs and the occasional SACD
3. music from my computer’s iTunes through Apple TV
4. Netflix (currently play this through Apple TV but in the future perhaps through the Oppo)
The MMC-1 has two HDMI inputs but they take only video and not sound. Currently, I connect video from my DVD Player and my Apple TV using the HDMIs and sound using a Optical digital cable. (Currently I play CDs with a dedicated CD player that is on its last legs and will be getting rid of that and relying on the new Oppo for CDs.)
So, for the 103, I was envisioning this hook up:
From AppleTV into Oppo:
-- HDMI in for video, Optical digital cable for sound
From Oppo into MMC-1:
-- AppleTV Video: Oppo HDMI Out 1 into MMC’s HDMI Sat in
-- AppleTV Sound: Oppo Optical out into MMC’s SAT Optical in
-- DVD Video: Oppo HDMI Out 2 into MMC’s HDMI DVD in
-- DVD Sound: Oppo Coax out into MMC’s DVD Coax in
First Question: Do these connections make sense?
Second Question: If I wanted to improve stereo sound on CDs, HDCDs and iTunes music through the AppleTV, could I connect two good analog cables (L/R) from the Oppo’s analog outs into the MMC’s CD analog L/R ins? And so, whenever I wanted to listen to a CD or streaming AppleTV music, I’d set the MMC to “CD” and take advantage of the analog stereo?
Third Question: if the answer to the 2nd question is yes (i.e., yes, connect the stereo analog cables), would I have to connect all the other 5.1 analog connections? In other words, I’d want the iTunes and CDs to play through the analog connections in stereo (by playing the MMC’s “CD” setting), but when I was playing a DVD from the Oppo I’d want the sound to go through the digital connect (by playing the MMC’s DVD setting) and when I played a video through AppleTV, I’d want the sound to go through the optical connect (by playing the MMC’s SAT setting).
Sorry for the length, I tried to explain it as thouroughly as I could. Any thoughts would be welcome.
Thanks
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Post by creimes on Nov 25, 2013 11:41:06 GMT -5
Think simple, connect the Apple TV to the Oppo 103 via HDMI and then go out from HDMI 1 on the Oppo to your MMC and connect either optical or coax digital from the Oppo to the MMC for 2ch and 5.1 formats, and if desired you could connect the L&R RCA's from the Oppo to the MMC's CD input for 2ch playback using the Oppo's DAC.
Chad
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Post by spyrelx on Nov 25, 2013 15:50:29 GMT -5
Thanks. Just so I'm clear,
If I run AppleTV hdmi into Oppo and then (for sound) an optical from Oppo into MMC, will I be using the MMC's DAC or the Oppo's DAC?
If the answer is I'd be using the MMC's DAC then it's better to run analog from Oppo to MMC to ensure Oppo's DAC is used, right?
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Post by creimes on Nov 25, 2013 16:17:20 GMT -5
If running optical to MMC then yes the MMC DAC is used, maybe try both ways and see what you prefer or if you even notice a difference at all, I prefer using digital coax compared to optical as when using digital coax it is not changed from copper to optical and then back to copper again, not sure if it would actually have any negatives on the signal but just reduces the amount of conversions done, hard to explain, like say the optical drive of a disc player it reads the disc via optical laser and then runs through copper wiring and circuits within the player and then if you use the optical out from the player it has to convert it back to an optical stream and then back to copper within the processor/preamp.
Maybe if Keith happens to see this he would be able to explain it better or even let us know if this has any effect on the signal rather than just using Digital Coaxial.
Chad
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Post by tank45 on Dec 12, 2013 17:45:22 GMT -5
Has anyone here tried the Roku streaming stick offered by oppo? If so, how was the picture and sound quality? We are Amazon Prime members so we could stream movies free - or should I say, my wife wants to stream movies because PQ/SQ isn't super important to her (we differ in that regard). I would of course be roped into watching streamed movies with her and really don't want to complain if the quality isn't reasonable.
Thanks!
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Post by orangeLollies on Dec 12, 2013 18:41:24 GMT -5
Haven't read through this thread - but just thought I'd chime in and say "I want one" !!
Had a play with the BDP-103 the other day (we including two of them for a client install) - was really impressed with the build quality, snappy performance and played every format I threw at it. Was also amazed we were able to simply connect an NTFS formatted USB drive, selected a 1080p DTS-MA MKV file - and away it went... awesome!
Very keen on the BDP-105, as I like the idea of using the onboard scaler for external HDMI sources, the USB soundcard capability, and of-course the super-duper DAC-> analogue outs.
What I didn't try: External HDMI input pass through the onboard DAC? ...would be great if my HTPC could go via the Oppo for DAC duties...
cheers
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