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Post by ed on May 30, 2013 11:00:14 GMT -5
Is it ported or sealed? Both, have port(s) that are plugable for different tuning freq.
What size? 15"
How much power? 1000w
What type of finish? black veneer
Features and such. Down firing!, passive box with external stereo dsp 1000+w/ch@4ohms bridgable 2U class D amp
Last but certainly not least, how much? $700 woofer, 700 amp
1 amp and 2 woofers please ;D
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Post by briank on May 30, 2013 11:38:50 GMT -5
I've never understood why people are so concerned with sub output below 20hz. There is no sound below 20hz and its only a floor and wall vibrator at that point which I find distracting during a movie. Then the same people will add a Subdude to decouple the sub from the floor counteracting the vibration they thought they wanted??? I'm more concerned with total output between 20 - 80 hz. Give me the sub with 130 db output at 50hz with a flat freq response from 20-80hz.  |
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Post by DYohn on May 30, 2013 11:50:28 GMT -5
I'm more concerned with total output between 20 - 80 hz. Give me the sub with 130 db output at 50hz with a flat freq response from 20-80hz. Exactly. And with that, you'll get plenty of impact below 20Hz if the information is there. |
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Post by siggie on May 30, 2013 12:02:40 GMT -5
For those of us on a budget, a quality dual purpose theater/music sub like this:
Is it ported or sealed? Whatever works.
What size? 12"
How much power? 300 watts
What type of finish? Satin Lacquer
Features and such. RCA inputs
Last but certainly not least, how much? $499 (but for me, since it was my idea, $199)
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Post by briank on May 30, 2013 12:14:46 GMT -5
I'm more concerned with total output between 20 - 80 hz. Give me the sub with 130 db output at 50hz with a flat freq response from 20-80hz. Exactly. And with that, you'll get plenty of impact below 20Hz if the information is there. At least we finally agree on something. ;D |
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Post by Boomzilla on May 30, 2013 19:00:31 GMT -5
The former Definitive Technology Trinity Supercube but with some automatic room equalization.
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Post by counterpoint on Jun 1, 2013 18:19:39 GMT -5
For those of us on a budget, a quality dual purpose theater/music sub like this: Is it ported or sealed? Whatever works. What size? 12" How much power? 300 watts What type of finish? Satin Lacquer Features and such. RCA inputs Last but certainly not least, how much? $499 (but for me, since it was my idea, $199) Siggie SVS comes close to that with their SB1000 / PB1000. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2013 19:12:16 GMT -5
I've never understood why people are so concerned with sub output below 20hz. It's only a floor and wall shaker at that point which I find distracting during a movie. Then the same people will add a Subdude to decouple the sub from the floor counteracting the vibration they thought they wanted??? I'm more concerned with total output between 20 - 80 hz. Give me the sub with 130 db output at 50hz with a flat freq response from 20-80hz. Very true but if you ever experience a system with true sub 20hz performance, it's really something. I'm not talking about a 1 or 2 sub system, I'm talking about a system that is flat to 10hz. Why have most when you can have it all!!!! |
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Jun 1, 2013 21:10:24 GMT -5
I've never understood why people are so concerned with sub output below 20hz. It's only a floor and wall shaker at that point which I find distracting during a movie. Then the same people will add a Subdude to decouple the sub from the floor counteracting the vibration they thought they wanted??? I'm more concerned with total output between 20 - 80 hz. Give me the sub with 130 db output at 50hz with a flat freq response from 20-80hz. Very true but if you ever experience a system with true sub 20hz performance, it's really something. I'm not talking about a 1 or 2 sub system, I'm talking about a system that is flat to 10hz. Why have most when you can have it all!!!! Because we all can't afford the subs you have!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 0:31:38 GMT -5
I was more talking about why people are concerned with sub 20hz rather than an actual sub that will do it. Once you experience it, you'd really see why someone may want it.
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Post by Chuck Elliot on Jun 2, 2013 0:34:42 GMT -5
I was more talking about why people are concerned with sub 20hz rather than an actual sub that will do it. Once you experience it, you'd really see why someone may want it. Fully understand and just joking.... |
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Post by mopman on Jun 4, 2013 9:34:38 GMT -5
Options beside Henry Ford Black, some spouses draw the line on black speakers I know I had to find other options when it came to finish of the speakers.
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Post by briank on Jun 4, 2013 11:04:21 GMT -5
I've never understood why people are so concerned with sub output below 20hz. It's only a floor and wall shaker at that point which I find distracting during a movie. Then the same people will add a Subdude to decouple the sub from the floor counteracting the vibration they thought they wanted??? I'm more concerned with total output between 20 - 80 hz. Give me the sub with 130 db output at 50hz with a flat freq response from 20-80hz. Very true but if you ever experience a system with true sub 20hz performance, it's really something. I'm not talking about a 1 or 2 sub system, I'm talking about a system that is flat to 10hz. Why have most when you can have it all!!!! |
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Post by briank on Jun 4, 2013 11:14:04 GMT -5
I've never understood why people are so concerned with sub output below 20hz. It's only a floor and wall shaker at that point which I find distracting during a movie. Then the same people will add a Subdude to decouple the sub from the floor counteracting the vibration they thought they wanted??? I'm more concerned with total output between 20 - 80 hz. Give me the sub with 130 db output at 50hz with a flat freq response from 20-80hz. Very true but if you ever experience a system with true sub 20hz performance, it's really something. I'm not talking about a 1 or 2 sub system, I'm talking about a system that is flat to 10hz. Why have most when you can have it all!!!! Yes, but do they like it for its 10hz floor vibration of for the same subs 20-80 hz output? My sub has settings of 14hz, 16hz, 20 hz, & 25 hz and I prefer the 20 or 25 hz settings which give me more headroom over the deeper settings. Playing test tones under 20 hz doesn't create any sound other than my windows, doors, cabinets and picture vibrating which are not part of the movie I'm watching and therefore distracting. I'm sure some people may get a kick out of vibrating stuff in their room but for me, I prefer the noises to come from the movie. I think people just get too caught up in a subs <20hz performance instead of the most important attribute which is frequency response and db output between 20 - 80 hz. Give me the bass punch I can actually hear. |
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Post by briank on Jun 4, 2013 11:25:22 GMT -5
I guess Subs with great <20 hz performance would make more sense in a dedicated home theater without windows, pictures, and decor to vibrate everywhere. I could see it then, but in my living room it doesn't go over as well. The Subdude helped a lot to reduce the <20 hz vibration so now I can crank my movies louder without fear of breaking my windows and knocking pictures off the wall. . The bass is tighter and cleaner now without the room vibration sounds mixing with the movie soundtrack. I really like the subdude but wouldn't recommend it for people that enjoy the extra rattling. |
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Post by laserman35 on Jun 4, 2013 12:06:10 GMT -5
2-4 18" subs in a sealed enclosure.
For power I prefer to get to 120 DB at 1/2 power.
I hate to listen to a strained subwoofer, or cone and port noise.
It has to sound unstrained to me.
Accuracy is less important to me in the subwoofer range of listening.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 12:50:16 GMT -5
Very true but if you ever experience a system with true sub 20hz performance, it's really something. I'm not talking about a 1 or 2 sub system, I'm talking about a system that is flat to 10hz. Why have most when you can have it all!!!! Yes, but do they like it for its 10hz floor vibration of for the same subs 20-80 hz output? My sub has settings of 14hz, 16hz, 20 hz, & 25 hz and I prefer the 20 or 25 hz settings which give me more headroom over the deeper settings. Playing test tones under 20 hz doesn't create any sound other than my windows, doors, cabinets and picture vibrating which are not part of the movie I'm watching and therefore distracting. I'm sure some people may get a kick out of vibrating stuff in their room but for me, I prefer the noises to come from the movie. I think people just get too caught up in a subs <20hz performance instead of the most important attribute which is frequency response and db output between 20 - 80 hz. Give me the bass punch I can actually hear. You've got to understand that just because your room shakes, and you can't hear it, doesn't take away from the effect it can give with a high spl in the right room with the right system. Your 1 sub just can't produce the levels needed to really be able to experience it. Once you feel 20hz at 120 to 130 dB's, the feeling of your clothes shaking, Your hair standing on end, talking sounds like you are talking through a fan at your seating level. Don't think that just because you don't value the experience, others don't. I've spent countless thousands trying to reproduce that feeling. I've never had anyone leave my HT and go "meh it went to low and i couldn't hear it" They leave giggling and all smiles" The problem is, you don't hear ULF, you experience it. Talk to any of the guys who have systems that can reproduce those levels, I can 100% say for certain they will never go back. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 12:50:32 GMT -5
double post
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Post by GreenKiwi on Jun 4, 2013 14:18:31 GMT -5
I like IB solutions.
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