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Post by jmilton on Sept 19, 2014 6:03:53 GMT -5
"...he didn't start the rumor".
It's called "spreading a rumor ".
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Post by ÈlTwo on Sept 19, 2014 7:15:11 GMT -5
It was only a matter of time before someone posted this, so I figured "why not me?"
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Post by MaisterK on Sept 19, 2014 7:18:06 GMT -5
The best way to fight rumours is to kick it with truth evidence right away, right on the spot. Do nothing and you'll have a grown conspiracy theory.
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Post by foggy1956 on Sept 19, 2014 7:19:07 GMT -5
"...he didn't start the rumor". It's called "spreading a rumor ". He asked a legitimate question on a public forum, was crucified for it, and received a answer from the company which I appreciated hearing |
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Post by geebo on Sept 19, 2014 7:21:12 GMT -5
"...he didn't start the rumor". It's called "spreading a rumor ". He asked a legitimate question on a public forum, was crucified for it, and received a answer from the company which I appreciated hearing Crucified? Really? Nothing like a little dose of embellishment. |
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Post by wbroshea on Sept 19, 2014 8:51:30 GMT -5
"...he didn't start the rumor". It's called "spreading a rumor ". Uh no. Spreading a rumor is saying "Hey guess what I heard ..." on another forum with no chance for the subject of the rumor to respond or behind their back. Here he basically asked "Is what I heard true" and requested said subject to respond, or at least he thought that it was clear that was his intent. It actually seems quite responsible to me. |
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 19, 2014 9:05:34 GMT -5
"...he didn't start the rumor". It's called "spreading a rumor ". Uh no. Spreading a rumor is saying "Hey guess what I heard ..." on another forum with no chance for the subject of the rumor to respond or behind their back. Here he basically asked "Is what I heard true" and requested said subject to respond, or at least he thought that it was clear that was his intent. It actually seems quite responsible to me. Let's take a look at all this.. In the case of this particular rumor, the opportunity existed to determine its accuracy immediately. That opportunity was in the form of calling Emotiva and asking them if it was true or not. The person that called could then have posted the answer they received in the thread for all to see. To say that it would not be efficient for 50 or 100 or 1000 people to call Emo to get the same answer to the same question is true, but then you figure if a person has access to the thread to read the rumor and then call Emo, they would continue to have access to the thread to then post the response they received. As for expecting someone from Emo to respond in the thread - indeed, Jessica did although not immediately. Perhaps no one from Emotiva saw it early enough. Who knows what the reason might be. As most of us know, everyone there is very busy, especially with trying to fulfill the XMC-1 orders and also get Dirac up and running. Also, there is normally not much participation from the Emo staff in this Lounge, especially since Andrew left. Therefore, if by observation we see that there is not much participation from the staff then why would we expect an immediate answer for a rumor that was posted in a thread? Would it not be a more efficient method to determine the veracity of this rumor by simply picking up the phone and calling Emo, and then posting the answer for all to see in the thread? Why do we expect Emo to jump in right away with an answer when we know that their participation here is limited? It's no different than when someone's gear doesn't work properly and then they ask a bunch of questions here that are best answered by Emo's support team. So why not call the support team? These folks are busy; they don't have time to be sitting at their computer monitoring the forum waiting for someone to ask a question. As for the OP being "crucified" for asking it. I looked through the entire thread. I would say that the strongest reaction to the OP's post was from me and in no way did the tone of any of the things I posted make it seem like I was trying to crucify him. As I said before and say again, and excuse me if this lacks humility, the right thing to do would have been to call Emo and determine if the rumor was true or not. I don't understand why some people can't get this and instead feel it was a personal attack. As for the rest of the posts, I saw nothing that violated Lounge rules or came close to being out of line. People were responding to the rumor. That's fine, but I feel that if there is a rumor and you have the opportunity to immediately find out if it is true or not, then you should take action and find out. To not do so is irresponsible. If you feel that's an attack then so be it. I say it's common sense. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 19, 2014 9:08:36 GMT -5
"...he didn't start the rumor". It's called "spreading a rumor ". Uh no. Spreading a rumor is saying "Hey guess what I heard ..." on another forum with no chance for the subject of the rumor to respond or behind their back. ... I'm sorry but 'where' you spread a rumor doesn't define if you're spreading it. To me the OP lost credibility when he was willing to pass on questionable information, but was unwilling to call to find out if it was true. |
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Post by kse on Sept 19, 2014 9:21:05 GMT -5
Wow.....still going.... The poor guy apologized. He didn't intend, nor did he realize the sh*tstorm this would create.
We know, people are sensitive, we get it.
Give it a rest.
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Post by mshump on Sept 19, 2014 9:24:03 GMT -5
+1
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Post by pedrocols on Sept 19, 2014 9:24:46 GMT -5
I heard Emotiva is coming out with a new processor?....I heard that in another forum about five years ago and heard that here as well like ten thousand times...Well, never mind the processor did in fact was introduced....
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Post by wbroshea on Sept 19, 2014 9:57:33 GMT -5
The person that called could then have posted the answer they received in the thread for all to see. Why would said poster be responsible for Emotiva's job? Why should anyone expect a poster to do Emotiva's job? This is their job, to present their brand as they see fit and respond to rumors as they see fit. They don't need a bunch of us running around protecting them from rumor spreading or rumor questioning and telling individuals to call and post the answer. Let Emotiva do their job and squash the rumors they see fit and let them not respond to those they don't want to. All this poster did was bring it to their attention and give them an opportunity to respond directly. In a perfect world Emotiva would have responded on the site where the original rumor came from. This is not a perfect world so a little help bringing attention to an internet rumor (a particularly damaging one) is actually helpful to Emotiva. But the response should come from Emotiva not some poster saying "I talked to Emotiva and they said..." (wait what did that original rumor say?) If Emotiva never responds sure call them and tell everybody if you choose, but first crack at a response should be to the Company and I bet they appreciate the opportunity. To say that it would not be efficient for 50 or 100 or 1000 people to call Emo to get the same answer to the same question is true, but then you figure if a person has access to the thread to read the rumor and then call Emo, they would continue to have access to the thread to then post the response they received. Same as above As for expecting someone from Emo to respond in the thread - indeed, Jessica did although not immediately. Perhaps no one from Emotiva saw it early enough. Who knows what the reason might be. As most of us know, everyone there is very busy, especially with trying to fulfill the XMC-1 orders and also get Dirac up and running. Also, there is normally not much participation from the Emo staff in this Lounge, especially since Andrew left. Therefore, if by observation we see that there is not much participation from the staff then why would we expect an immediate answer for a rumor that was posted in a thread? Would it not be a more efficient method to determine the veracity of this rumor by simply picking up the phone and calling Emo, and then posting the answer for all to see in the thread? Why do we expect Emo to jump in right away with an answer when we know that their participation here is limited? I don't expect them to jump in immediately. I expect them to jump in when it makes sense for their business model or choose to not jump in when they see fit. Responding to questions is not always the right thing to do, not responding is sometimes the best route and can be even for rumors. It's no different than when someone's gear doesn't work properly and then they ask a bunch of questions here that are best answered by Emo's support team. So why not call the support team? These folks are busy; they don't have time to be sitting at their computer monitoring the forum waiting for someone to ask a question. Well its good they are not so busy to answer the phone. Out of curiosity, how much longer does responding on the internet take vs a phone call. Probably insignificant. Nonetheless, it's completely different. Here, in our scenario 100 people have the exact same question, how often does that happen with gear? Also, even the posts about gear have significant value to consumers and potential customers. By your logic we should eliminate bug threads. Just call in tell them the bug and wait for them fix it. No body else needs to know. Also want to point out, no company should get a pass because they are busy. Either hire more staff or don't take on certain projects to ensure adequate response time (products or otherwise) to a certain percentage of your base customers. This comment has zero to do with Emotiva as they seem to be handling their business quite well and seem appropriately staffed, I just really dislike the busy excuse for any company. As for the OP being "crucified" for asking it. I looked through the entire thread. I would say that the strongest reaction to the OP's post was from me and in no way did the tone of any of the things I posted make it seem like I was trying to crucify him. As I said before and say again, and excuse me if this lacks humility, the right thing to do would have been to call Emo and determine if the rumor was true or not. I don't understand why some people can't get this and instead feel it was a personal attack. As for the rest of the posts, I saw nothing that violated Lounge rules or came close to being out of line. People were responding to the rumor. That's fine, but I feel that if there is a rumor and you have the opportunity to immediately find out if it is true or not, then you should take action and find out. To not do so is irresponsible. If you feel that's an attack then so be it. I say it's common sense. None of this has anything to do with anything I said so I assume it was for someone else. |
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Post by wbroshea on Sept 19, 2014 10:01:22 GMT -5
Uh no. Spreading a rumor is saying "Hey guess what I heard ..." on another forum with no chance for the subject of the rumor to respond or behind their back. ... I'm sorry but 'where' you spread a rumor doesn't define if your spreading it. To me the OP lost credibility when he was willing to pass on questionable information, but was unwilling to call to find out if it was true. How often do you spread the rumor to the person the rumor is about? If and when you do, are you spreading it as truth or are you really looking for a response of whether the rumor is true? Edit: Could also be you are giving the subject of the rumor a chance to defend themselves, assuming the rumor turns out to be false. |
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 19, 2014 10:09:19 GMT -5
The person that called could then have posted the answer they received in the thread for all to see. Why would said poster be responsible for Emotiva's job? Why should anyone expect a poster to do Emotiva's job? This is their job, to present their brand as they see fit and respond to rumors as they see fit. They don't need a bunch of us running around protecting them from rumor spreading or rumor questioning and telling individuals to call and post the answer. Let Emotiva do their job and squash the rumors they see fit and let them not respond to those they don't want to. All this poster did was bring it to their attention and give them an opportunity to respond directly. In a perfect world Emotiva would have responded on the site where the original rumor came from. This is not a perfect world so a little help bringing attention to an internet rumor (a particularly damaging one) is actually helpful to Emotiva. But the response should come from Emotiva not some poster saying "I talked to Emotiva and they said..." (wait what did that original rumor say?) If Emotiva never responds sure call them and tell everybody if you choose, but first crack at a response should be to the Company and I bet they appreciate the opportunity. To say that it would not be efficient for 50 or 100 or 1000 people to call Emo to get the same answer to the same question is true, but then you figure if a person has access to the thread to read the rumor and then call Emo, they would continue to have access to the thread to then post the response they received. Same as above As for expecting someone from Emo to respond in the thread - indeed, Jessica did although not immediately. Perhaps no one from Emotiva saw it early enough. Who knows what the reason might be. As most of us know, everyone there is very busy, especially with trying to fulfill the XMC-1 orders and also get Dirac up and running. Also, there is normally not much participation from the Emo staff in this Lounge, especially since Andrew left. Therefore, if by observation we see that there is not much participation from the staff then why would we expect an immediate answer for a rumor that was posted in a thread? Would it not be a more efficient method to determine the veracity of this rumor by simply picking up the phone and calling Emo, and then posting the answer for all to see in the thread? Why do we expect Emo to jump in right away with an answer when we know that their participation here is limited? I don't expect them to jump in immediately. I expect them to jump in when it makes sense for their business model or choose to not jump in when they see fit. Responding to questions is not always the right thing to do, not responding is sometimes the best route and can be even for rumors. It's no different than when someone's gear doesn't work properly and then they ask a bunch of questions here that are best answered by Emo's support team. So why not call the support team? These folks are busy; they don't have time to be sitting at their computer monitoring the forum waiting for someone to ask a question. Well its good their not so busy to answer the phone. Out of curiosity, how much longer does responding on the internet take vs a phone call. Probably insignificant. Nonetheless, it's completely different. Here, in our scenario 100 people have the exact same question, how often does that happen with gear? Also, even the posts about gear have significant value to consumers and potential customers. By your logic we should eliminate bug threads. Just call in tell them the bug and wait for them fix it. No body else needs to know. Also want to point out, no company should get a pass because they are busy. Either hire more staff or don't take on certain projects to ensure adequate response time (products or otherwise) to a certain percentage of your base customers. This comment has zero to do with Emotiva as they seem to be handling their business quite well and seem appropriately staffed, I just really dislike the busy excuse for any company. As for the OP being "crucified" for asking it. I looked through the entire thread. I would say that the strongest reaction to the OP's post was from me and in no way did the tone of any of the things I posted make it seem like I was trying to crucify him. As I said before and say again, and excuse me if this lacks humility, the right thing to do would have been to call Emo and determine if the rumor was true or not. I don't understand why some people can't get this and instead feel it was a personal attack. As for the rest of the posts, I saw nothing that violated Lounge rules or came close to being out of line. People were responding to the rumor. That's fine, but I feel that if there is a rumor and you have the opportunity to immediately find out if it is true or not, then you should take action and find out. To not do so is irresponsible. If you feel that's an attack then so be it. I say it's common sense. None of this has anything to do with anything I said so assume it was for someone else. Let's say I light a match and start a fire in your house. I know you're home somewhere so I just expect you to come running over with a bucket of water to squelch it. That you fail to do so and your house burns down is your fault. Never mind that I shouldn't have started the fire in the first place or that I had a bucket of water right next to me that I could have thrown on it. It's your fault because it's your house.  |
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 19, 2014 10:09:59 GMT -5
Wow.  |
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Post by Priapulus on Sept 19, 2014 10:15:48 GMT -5
Must be a really slow news day. Wow, arguing about the best way to lynch the messenger...
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Post by yeeeha17 on Sept 19, 2014 10:16:42 GMT -5
Wow!!! Let it go. You guys are the reasons why threads get lock trying to defend Emotiva. They answered the question so can we move on please
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Post by pedrocols on Sept 19, 2014 10:19:50 GMT -5
I heard Emotiva is coming out with a new processor?....I heard that in another forum about five years ago and heard that here as well like ten thousand times...Well, never mind the processor did in fact was introduced.... I heard Emotiva is coming out with a new processor?....I heard that in another forum about five years ago and heard that here as well like ten thousand times...Well, never mind the processor did in fact was introduced.... This...Wow, this thread is making me quote myself...geezzzz...I've heard that is a sign of mental illness... |
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Post by bootman on Sept 19, 2014 10:20:04 GMT -5
Uh no. Spreading a rumor is saying "Hey guess what I heard ..." on another forum with no chance for the subject of the rumor to respond or behind their back. ... I'm sorry but 'where' you spread a rumor doesn't define if your spreading it. To me the OP lost credibility when he was willing to pass on questionable information, but was unwilling to call to find out if it was true. I once posted the following: emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/642122Can you guess what the (at the time) official Emotiva response was? How is this that much different? |
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Post by pedrocols on Sept 19, 2014 10:22:13 GMT -5
Emotiva does not have a good track record on giving acurate information and straight answers so why would anyone bother calling them other than to oder stuff or for technical assistance?
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