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Post by krauley on May 29, 2019 18:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by Chris on May 30, 2019 11:20:46 GMT -5
Thanks. I had heard there was a signup but couldn't find it because of my ad blocking. Emotiva should redo the page to work with ad blockers. They me be getting low signups because of this? |
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Post by krauley on May 30, 2019 19:04:47 GMT -5
Thanks. I had heard there was a signup but couldn't find it because of my ad blocking. Emotiva should redo the page to work with ad blockers. They me be getting low signups because of this? Hey as long as we got ours in.......  |
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Post by cwt on Jun 1, 2019 1:18:48 GMT -5
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Post by markc on Jun 1, 2019 2:36:06 GMT -5
I note the absence of any mention of Dirac processing on the page for the XMC-2 as of today.
Hopefully this is simply because the Dirac V2 is not yet finalised by Dirac themselves and thus is also not enabled in the RMC-1, and so the XMC-2 will eventually have this announced.
There is a picture of the Emotiva microphone for Dirac measurements.
I am hoping that the faster processors and newer circuitry in the RMC-1 (and the RMC-1L, which is actually the model I will be going for to upgrade my XMC-1) allow Dirac processing at higher frequencies than the XMC-1 can manage (although even the need for 16 channel processing means a lot of processor overhead is needed I should think)
The XMC-1 can only process Dirac at 48kHz so all audio at 44.1 / 88.2 / 96 / 176.4 / 192 kHz etc is resampled to 48kHz (which is especially sub-optimal for 44.1kHz CD multiples including 176.4kHz SACD derived audio).
96kHZ is the common standard for movies within Dolby or DTS Blu-ray encodes, and for most Hi-rez audio releases so it would be great if Dirac V2 on the RMC-1 and hopefully the XMC-2 has 96kHz rather than 48kHz Dirac processing without downsampling.
nb The Dirac software on a PC seems to allow the Dirac filters to be applied to any sample rate without resampling (which would imply different Dirac filters are generated for each and every possible sample rate unless there is one Dirac filter frequency (e.g. 48kHz like on the XMC-1) and the audio is resampled twice - once to 48kHz to allow the Dirac filters to be applied and then back to the original input frequency, which would be most odd)
If Dirac V2 for Emotiva allows different Dirac filter rates then the two most useful would be 44.1 and 96kHz (Or just go further and resample everything to 176.4kHz and 192kHz if the processor can do this for 16 channels at once)
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Post by petes on Jun 1, 2019 5:14:06 GMT -5
Yep, I spotted the lack of Dirac. Also, no mention of REW filter loading. As you say, I hope these are just since it's wip, as no Dirac on XMC2 would be a huge miss.
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Post by cwt on Jun 1, 2019 6:39:59 GMT -5
I am hoping that the faster processors and newer circuitry in the RMC-1 (and the RMC-1L, which is actually the model I will be going for to upgrade my XMC-1) allow Dirac processing at higher frequencies than the XMC-1 can manage (although even the need for 16 channel processing means a lot of processor overhead is needed I should think) The XMC-1 can only process Dirac at 48kHz so all audio at 44.1 / 88.2 / 96 / 176.4 / 192 kHz etc is resampled to 48kHz (which is especially sub-optimal for 44.1kHz CD multiples including 176.4kHz SACD derived audio). 96kHZ is the common standard for movies within Dolby or DTS Blu-ray encodes, and for most Hi-rez audio releases so it would be great if Dirac V2 on the RMC-1 and hopefully the XMC-2 has 96kHz rather than 48kHz Dirac processing without downsampling. Early on the RMC1 was mooted to have 192khz dirac but this was revised .At this point in time the RMC1L is your ticket as the RMC1 is specked at 96khz for dirac as Dan has said [as well as recent articles] and they are both identical except for the expansion bays.. Don't worry about movie sampling rates . Early bd movies with a lossless codec had a 16 bit 48khz sampling rate [like most dvd's]; newer ones are 24/48khz . These are divisible into 96khz so theres no mathematically off resampling to worry about . There will not be similarly for any dvd-a or music concert bd's as these are typically 24/96khz .. If you have any m2ts bd movie files apply mediainfo to them and you will know the bit depth and sampling rate ; its a great tool and resource . It is unfortunate cd's are 44.1 and not 48khz but Ime a bit oecd so that's an excuse  sourceforge.net/projects/mediainfo/ |
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Post by Vermont99 on Jun 1, 2019 9:52:42 GMT -5
One thing that I think Emovita missed putting into the XMC-2 and RMC-1 is WiFi. As I understand it we will still have to hard wire them to the internet using a Ethernet cable to use Dirac when available. Since the last time I set up Dirac on my XMC-1 I had to relocated all my Internet equipment to another part of my house and will need at lease 45 to 50 feet of Ethernet cable to reach my router. WiFi would have made life much simpler. Still must decide XMC-2 Or RMC-1L I got my name on both pre-order list.
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Post by jamco on Jun 1, 2019 10:21:11 GMT -5
I note the absence of any mention of Dirac processing on the page for the XMC-2 as of today. Hopefully this is simply because the Dirac V2 is not yet finalised by Dirac themselves and thus is also not enabled in the RMC-1, and so the XMC-2 will eventually have this announced. I share that hope. |
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Post by Hair Nick on Jun 1, 2019 10:53:46 GMT -5
I note the absence of any mention of Dirac processing on the page for the XMC-2 as of today. Hopefully this is simply because the Dirac V2 is not yet finalised by Dirac themselves and thus is also not enabled in the RMC-1, and so the XMC-2 will eventually have this announced. I share that hope. This is correct. Dirac isn't finalized yet but it is in the box just like the RMC-1 and RMC-1L. Just has to be enabled. |
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Post by jamco on Jun 1, 2019 11:56:45 GMT -5
This is correct. Dirac isn't finalized yet but it is in the box just like the RMC-1 and RMC-1L. Just has to be enabled. Thanks, Nick. Music to my ears! |
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Post by petes on Jun 1, 2019 14:12:57 GMT -5
This is correct. Dirac isn't finalized yet but it is in the box just like the RMC-1 and RMC-1L. Just has to be enabled. Thanks Nick - good to hear. Do you know if they're going to add the REW support. Current version of REW looks like it's got UMC-200 and XMC-1, but not RMC yet, and obviously not XMC-2 yet. |
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Post by sveb on Jun 3, 2019 8:08:52 GMT -5
I note the absence of any mention of Dirac processing on the page for the XMC-2 as of today. Hopefully this is simply because the Dirac V2 is not yet finalised by Dirac themselves and thus is also not enabled in the RMC-1, and so the XMC-2 will eventually have this announced. There is a picture of the Emotiva microphone for Dirac measurements. Dirac Live 2.x was released last year. |
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Post by LCSeminole on Jun 3, 2019 9:39:33 GMT -5
I note the absence of any mention of Dirac processing on the page for the XMC-2 as of today. Hopefully this is simply because the Dirac V2 is not yet finalised by Dirac themselves and thus is also not enabled in the RMC-1, and so the XMC-2 will eventually have this announced. There is a picture of the Emotiva microphone for Dirac measurements. Dirac Live 2.x was released last year. Not for the ADI Griffin Lite platform it wasn’t , since Dirac Research is still working on the code. |
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Post by sveb on Jun 5, 2019 3:59:07 GMT -5
Dirac Live 2.x was released last year. Not for the ADI Griffin Lite platform it wasn’t , since Dirac Research is still working on the code. Ok. But Dirac Live 2.x are released so it can be used by other products. Did not think it was different for the ADI Griffin lite. |
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Post by donh50 on Jun 5, 2019 14:36:45 GMT -5
There's a post from Dirac Live representative in one of these threads apologizing for the delay. It really is in Dirac Live's hands at this time. Posts on other fora indicate Emotiva and one or two others (at least) are awaiting code updates for their platforms.
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Post by thrillcat on Jun 5, 2019 14:40:12 GMT -5
There's a post from Dirac Live representative in one of these threads apologizing for the delay. It really is in Dirac Live's hands at this time. Posts on other fora indicate Emotiva and one or two others (at least) are awaiting code updates for their platforms. Earlier this week, I believe in the RMC-1 thread, someone posted that they had recently spoken to Dirac on the phone and Dirac has just completed their part and it is now in Emotiva's hands. |
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Post by thrillcat on Jun 5, 2019 15:01:52 GMT -5
There's a post from Dirac Live representative in one of these threads apologizing for the delay. It really is in Dirac Live's hands at this time. Posts on other fora indicate Emotiva and one or two others (at least) are awaiting code updates for their platforms. Earlier this week, I believe in the RMC-1 thread, someone posted that they had recently spoken to Dirac on the phone and Dirac has just completed their part and it is now in Emotiva's hands. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jun 5, 2019 15:59:34 GMT -5
There's a post from Dirac Live representative in one of these threads apologizing for the delay. It really is in Dirac Live's hands at this time. Posts on other fora indicate Emotiva and one or two others (at least) are awaiting code updates for their platforms. Dirac for ADI Griffin Lite platform is done by Dirac. StormAudio ISP 3D Elite Processors run on that platform and they got Dirac 2.0 update a few weeks ago as posted by Dirac in their website. Also, somebody contacted Dirac to ask about the status of the ADI Griffin Lite code and Dirac responded via email that the code is done and to ask Emotiva about the status. Check the response on the RMC-1 thread.  |
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Post by jonas79 on Jun 6, 2019 17:06:39 GMT -5
Nice to see that Xmc-2 are up on product page.
Also that Dirac Live 2 are done for the chip for RMC-1 and are same brand in this processor so maybe Dirac from start on this unit.
Hope Emotiva have a big group of beta testers that can test Xmc-2 so code are more stable then RMC-1 release.
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; It has the same dacs and adc's as the RMC1 just different balanced characteristics as known'
