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Post by melm on Jun 21, 2018 15:06:37 GMT -5
A couple of updates to my previous post on the board install and performance. I've substituted a shorter HDMI cable to my TV, although the previous one was certified. That's making HDR more reliable, but not 100%. Still seems a bit flaky and every so often I see SDR from an HDR disc. Good news is I'm now seeing Dolby Vision from Dolby encoded discs... that's on a 2016 LG OLED c6P. The XMC-1 info display shows these 4K pics as 8 bit, but they aren't.. and my Oppo reports bit depth properly.. so I think that's an issue of the XMC-1 display. I've reported all this to Keith this AM, and he says they are getting some other scattered bug reports... and to expect some firmware updates pretty quickly. This was also stated by Dan before the board shipped. HDMI is a hot mess, and I don't envy them, but overall the board is working, and it's nice to reduce my jumble of cables. Good to hear as I also have the C6. Just out of curiosity, what firmware version are you running on the Oppo? The latest "official" firmware, the new "public beta" or something older...? All my firmware dates to June 15, 2018 except for the Kernel which is version 1.2 and it's from Feb, 2018. Keith said users should be able to apply new Firmware over any version of the old... but stranger things have happened. |
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Post by Lonnie on Jun 21, 2018 15:21:18 GMT -5
The new board is slower which has everything to do with the HDCP2.2 which slows down the whole processor a little. We are constantly working to speed things up, but this new HDCP2.2 takes a solid 5 seconds to negotiate. In the lab if we turn off HDCP for testing, the whole system runs at lightning speed. Just curious, is this a HDCP2.2 Protocol latency thing or the computational load of processing the HDCP2.2? If it's the former, I would expect the RMC-1 to take just as long. If it's the latter, the RMC-1 has faster processors, so I would expect the HDCP2.2 handshake to take less time on the RMC-1. Casey Protocol latency. Lonnie |
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Post by Lonnie on Jun 21, 2018 15:22:05 GMT -5
The new board is slower which has everything to do with the HDCP2.2 which slows down the whole processor a little. We are constantly working to speed things up, but this new HDCP2.2 takes a solid 5 seconds to negotiate. In the lab if we turn off HDCP for testing, the whole system runs at lightning speed. Lonnie So this latency with HDCP2.2 only affects things like Menu navigation and Source switching, but not once it's locked onto a Source, right? So channel changing, speed searching through a movie etc still works as we're used to? [/quote] You are correct.  Lonnie |
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Post by Lonnie on Jun 21, 2018 15:29:26 GMT -5
A couple of updates to my previous post on the board install and performance. I've substituted a shorter HDMI cable to my TV, although the previous one was certified. That's making HDR more reliable, but not 100%. Still seems a bit flaky and every so often I see SDR from an HDR disc. Good news is I'm now seeing Dolby Vision from Dolby encoded discs... that's on a 2016 LG OLED c6P. The XMC-1 info display shows these 4K pics as 8 bit, but they aren't.. and my Oppo reports bit depth properly.. so I think that's an issue of the XMC-1 display. I've reported all this to Keith this AM, and he says they are getting some other scattered bug reports... and to expect some firmware updates pretty quickly. This was also stated by Dan before the board shipped. HDMI is a hot mess, and I don't envy them, but overall the board is working, and it's nice to reduce my jumble of cables. Cable length and type will make all the difference in the world when it comes to 4K HDR. At 18Gig we find anything longer then 6 feet is an iffy proposition. We use our HDBASE-t TX and RX for the projectors and can easily run 150 feet. But on a standard copper HDMI cable, well that is another story and as for the optical cables, well that is even more of a hot mess. None of them are approved because they all draw their power off of the HDMI PCB which is not allowed. In fact we have one here that draws so much juice that it actually sucks the HDMI board dry and the processor lock up. Now if they had an external power supply it would be great, but I haven't seen one yet. Lonnie |
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Post by elmex on Jun 21, 2018 16:19:06 GMT -5
I just installed the board and I got DV to work with Saving Private Ryan with the Oppo 203. I then got DV with the ATV4K. I am using bluejean hdmi cables and OLEDC7. The only issue is the audio with the oppo in all modes I get PCM 2.0 and never get the encoding. I was able to get 5.1 with Blu-ray in PS3. I may need to mess around with the settings tomorrow and be XMC when I get home from work. Thank you Emotiva for the board. I like switching between oppo, ATV, ERC-3, and PS3 without having to change inputs on the tv. It’s like a breath of fresh air again:) Thanks for the feedback. Knowing that you’re getting DV is a big relief. Just a tip on the Oppo... make sure that “Secondary Audio” hasn’t accidentally been set to “On” (it should be “off”) and that “HDMI Audio” is set to “Bitstream”. Getting nothing but PCM 2.0 is a classic symptom of having “Secondary Audio” enabled. Also make sure there’s no cable still plugged into the second (Audio Only) HDMI output. Sometimes, the best solution (especially after all of the workarounds you’ve had to do) is just to do a complete “factory reset” on the Oppo and start fresh...  Thanks for the input. Before I left home this morning I checked the settings on the oppo and secondary audio was off in the settings and I only have one hdmi cable now coming out of the oppo. I may have to to do a factory reset on the oppo. The latest firmware was a beta one on the oppo but I would have to check the version when I get home. Prior to the install I had the XMC audio mode to surround auto and it would default to the encoding on the discs as per an earlier post when I was watching a red box rental Death Cure. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jun 21, 2018 16:49:07 GMT -5
A couple of updates to my previous post on the board install and performance. I've substituted a shorter HDMI cable to my TV, although the previous one was certified. That's making HDR more reliable, but not 100%. Still seems a bit flaky and every so often I see SDR from an HDR disc. Good news is I'm now seeing Dolby Vision from Dolby encoded discs... that's on a 2016 LG OLED c6P. The XMC-1 info display shows these 4K pics as 8 bit, but they aren't.. and my Oppo reports bit depth properly.. so I think that's an issue of the XMC-1 display. I've reported all this to Keith this AM, and he says they are getting some other scattered bug reports... and to expect some firmware updates pretty quickly. This was also stated by Dan before the board shipped. HDMI is a hot mess, and I don't envy them, but overall the board is working, and it's nice to reduce my jumble of cables. Cable length and type will make all the difference in the world when it comes to 4K HDR. At 18Gig we find anything longer then 6 feet is an iffy proposition. We use our HDBASE-t TX and RX for the projectors and can easily run 150 feet. But on a standard copper HDMI cable, well that is another story and as for the optical cables, well that is even more of a hot mess. None of them are approved because they all draw their power off of the HDMI PCB which is not allowed. In fact we have one here that draws so much juice that it actually sucks the HDMI board dry and the processor lock up. Now if they had an external power supply it would be great, but I haven't seen one yet. Lonnie What about active HDMI cables like the Monoprice HOSS Active High Speed HDMI Cable? I have one 50' right now and I get full 4K/60Hz HDR and chroma 4:4:4 connecting my Oppo 203 directly to my TV. |
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 21, 2018 17:28:48 GMT -5
Cable length and type will make all the difference in the world when it comes to 4K HDR. At 18Gig we find anything longer then 6 feet is an iffy proposition. We use our HDBASE-t TX and RX for the projectors and can easily run 150 feet. But on a standard copper HDMI cable, well that is another story and as for the optical cables, well that is even more of a hot mess. None of them are approved because they all draw their power off of the HDMI PCB which is not allowed. In fact we have one here that draws so much juice that it actually sucks the HDMI board dry and the processor lock up. Now if they had an external power supply it would be great, but I haven't seen one yet. Lonnie What about active HDMI cables like the Monoprice HOSS Active High Speed HDMI Cable? I have one 50' right now and I get full 4K/60Hz HDR and chroma 4:4:4 connecting my Oppo 203 directly to my TV. Yep... I’d like to know too. I have the very popular 33’ Ruipro “Hybrid” active cable and it has worked flawlessly. Negotiation is as fast as I’ve ever seen. I have no idea how much power it “sucks” off of the HDMI board, but if it hasn’t blown up my AV7703 over the last 8 months, I’m sure hoping the XMC-1 will be fine. The 203 worked fine with it as well. Inquiring minds want to know... |
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 21, 2018 17:31:52 GMT -5
Well... As I was typing the last post, the UPS driver left my board in the door. Looks like he drove over the box (it’s actually “bent”), but thankfully the board looks fine. Now, off to work I go....  |
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Post by klinemj on Jun 21, 2018 17:33:04 GMT -5
Well... As I was typing the last post, the UPS driver left my board in the door. Looks like he drove over the box (it’s actually “bent”), but thankfully the board looks fine. Now, off to work I go.... Wow...hope it wasn't damaged. Mark |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 21, 2018 17:35:30 GMT -5
Well... As I was typing the last post, the UPS driver left my board in the door. Looks like he drove over the box (it’s actually “bent”), but thankfully the board looks fine. Now, off to work I go.... Dang! Hope all is well. So greatfull for the drivers we have in our community. Good luck! 🙏 |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jun 21, 2018 18:16:55 GMT -5
Finally decided to put the V3 board in. I'm having regrets already  Only getting PCM 2.0 from every source (ATV 4K, XBOX 360 and Xfinity DVR). Bluesound Node 2 over Analog In is fine and not sound, at all, from Oppo 203. Video is fine in my Sony HW40ES and LG 27UK650 4K HDR Monitor. |
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Post by LCSeminole on Jun 21, 2018 18:23:58 GMT -5
Finally decided to put the V3 board in. I'm having regrets already Only getting PCM 2.0 from every source (ATV 4K, XBOX 360 and Xfinity DVR). Bluesound Node 2 over Analog In is fine and not sound, at all, from Oppo 203. Video is fine in my Sony HW40ES and LG 27UK650 4K HDR Monitor. Did you perform a "Restore Settings" after the install? Mine did the same after upgrading, I believe the upgrade clears your custom settings, so you 'll need to restore them. I initially thought the same as you when I first upgraded, so hopefully this is the problem. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jun 21, 2018 18:26:23 GMT -5
Finally decided to put the V3 board in. I'm having regrets already Only getting PCM 2.0 from every source (ATV 4K, XBOX 360 and Xfinity DVR). Bluesound Node 2 over Analog In is fine and not sound, at all, from Oppo 203. Video is fine in my Sony HW40ES and LG 27UK650 4K HDR Monitor. Did you perform a "Restore Settings" after the install? Mine did the same after upgrading, I believe the upgrade clears your custom settings, so you 'll need to restore them. I initially thought the same as you when I first upgraded, so hopefully this is the problem. Restore settings from backup? I did and still only PCM 2.0 and no sound at all from Oppo 203 |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Jun 21, 2018 18:49:57 GMT -5
Make sure you report issues to Emotiva at the e-mail address in the instructions.
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Post by orangeLollies on Jun 21, 2018 18:58:55 GMT -5
Make a menu option to turn off HDCP?  Think about the possible legal implications that would have for a US company like Emotiva.  Just an FYI - This feature is available on many professional HDMI products (eg; Extron, SVSi, AMX-DGX etc...) and no laws are broken. It simply bypasses the HDCP process and in doing so it informs the source that the path is no longer HDCP compliant. In which case it's now up to the source to decide how to manage the process - in many cases it will just stop sending signal if the content calls for compliance, if compliance is not required, then there's no harm in letting the signal pass. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jun 21, 2018 19:02:40 GMT -5
I'm getting DD 5.1 from ATV 4K only. Got sound on the Oppo 203 when playing a DVD concert in Stereo. As soon I switch to DD 5.1 or DTS no sound, then switch back to Stereo and no sound. I need to stop the DVD and press play again and get sound only PCM 2.0. I'm getting PCM 2.0 from Xfinity DVR and XBOX 360 even both are set to send DD 5.1. This is a hot mess my friends.
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Post by melm on Jun 21, 2018 19:18:39 GMT -5
Not seeing any audio issues with my 203 and the new board. Check your settings. Then check again.
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Post by socketman on Jun 21, 2018 19:27:07 GMT -5
I'm getting DD 5.1 from ATV 4K only. Got sound on the Oppo 203 when playing a DVD concert in Stereo. As soon I switch to DD 5.1 or DTS no sound, then switch back to Stereo and no sound. I need to stop the DVD and press play again and get sound only PCM 2.0. I'm getting PCM 2.0 from Xfinity DVR and XBOX 360 even both are set to send DD 5.1. This is a hot mess my friends. Take the lid back off and double checkyour work and redo all connections. Perform a full factory reset and reload the firmware. Advise |
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Post by LCSeminole on Jun 21, 2018 19:42:03 GMT -5
My Xfinity DVR does the same with HDMI and has for as long as I've had it for two years now. To get DD5.1 I had to resort to the DVR's optical output. As for the AppleTV 4K, I normally get PCM5.1 or 2.0, depends on the content, and Dolby Atmos isn't yet officially supported by Apple, only in the 2nd beta in the form of iOS 12. As for my Oppo UDP-203, I get whatever 7.1 track is provided on the UHD blu-ray. As Socketman has already suggested, also try a "Factory Reset".
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Post by elmex on Jun 21, 2018 19:55:05 GMT -5
Did you perform a "Restore Settings" after the install? Mine did the same after upgrading, I believe the upgrade clears your custom settings, so you 'll need to restore them. I initially thought the same as you when I first upgraded, so hopefully this is the problem. Restore settings from backup? I did and still only PCM 2.0 and no sound at all from Oppo 203 I’m going to do a factory reset on the oppo 203. I currently have firmware UDP20X-56-0224. He restore settings on the XMC is not an option because I haven’t stored anything. My next step once I get everything running is to try Dirac. |
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Only getting PCM 2.0 from every source (ATV 4K, XBOX 360 and Xfinity DVR). Bluesound Node 2 over Analog In is fine and not sound, at all, from Oppo 203. Video is fine in my Sony HW40ES and LG 27UK650 4K HDR Monitor. 
