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Post by Jason on Dec 31, 2018 22:58:31 GMT -5
I was in Franklin, TN for work and "just so happened" to be staying about 10 minutes from Emotiva HQ earlier in December. I stopped by and spent some time with Damon, talking about the status of the XMC-1, RMC-1, and what the future held. My primary reason for moving from Anthem (MRX-710) to Emotiva is the complete inability to upgrade to HDCP 2.2 on the Anthem - which rules out using the AppleTV 4K. Not that I even care *that* much about the ATV4k... but it really bothered me that after having been a long-time Anthem customer, I had absolutely no heads-up that the MRX-710 I purchased was being EOL'd at the time I purchased it, to be replaced with the 720 just a few months later. No upgrade path whatsoever and no heads-up encouraging me to wait a few months left a bad taste. Much the opposite with Emotiva. Damon was very up-front and honest about the current state of the XMC-1. We talked for quite a while about the relative importance for me to get Atmos functionality. I live primarily in 2-channel land but occasionally jump over to 7.1 for a movie. Atmos - right now - just isn't important to me. What's far more important is stable firmware, excellent sound, and some assurance that the XMC-1 I just purchased will continue to be supported for a reasonable time into the future. Damon and team checked off all those boxes during our conversation, and I left very satisfied with a shiny new XMC-1 that I couldn't be more pleased with.
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Post by cwt on Dec 31, 2018 23:43:39 GMT -5
Good to hear. I never doubted the planned upgrades for the XMC-1. Just a question.... are the 2 upgrades such as the hdmi board and atmos board redesignate the processor to XMC-2 or is there something else that I’m missing? Either way I am happy and blessed with my XMC. Happy New Year!!! The replacement for the current XMC1 2nd generation edition;the new improved XMC1 3rd gen recently got a logical new tag ie XMC2 . So distinguishing it from the current discontinued XMC1 2nd edition  Clear as mud eah No seriously the XMC2 is different enough to earn the "2" moniker with its fully balanced outputs; l/c/r dual differential circuitry and 96khz dirac processing Happy new year . |
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Post by repeetavx on Jan 1, 2019 3:30:58 GMT -5
My XMC-1 is used mostly for two channel. It sounds better than any "stereo" equipment that I've ever owned. Plus it does movies, and decodes streaming. It will be a while before I'm interested in 4K, and probably never for ATMOS.
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Post by krobar on Jan 1, 2019 6:12:13 GMT -5
I'm actually quite excited by the XMC-2; it looks like there will finally be enough on offer to push me from my old AVP-A1HD.
One thing that should be very encouraging for XMC-1 owners is that it looks like the new RMC-1 and probably the XMC-2 will use the exact same HDMI boards so I would speculate that an HDMI 2.1 upgrade for the XMC-1 would be possible (Although demand would determine if its worth the firmware work).
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Post by vcautokid on Jan 1, 2019 8:16:17 GMT -5
A great Processor. Hale the new XMC-2. Change is a coming for 2019!
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Post by klinemj on Jan 1, 2019 8:20:02 GMT -5
I knew the day would come that the XMC-1 would be replaced, and it's exciting to see it happen. Why? I'm more interested in a XMC-2 than I am an RMC-1. When I do get into Atmos, its likely not with the maximum number of channels, and I don't think I'll need the expansion modules the RMC-1 allows (based on what I see might be offered at this point vs. what I need). The XMC-1 being out of production means we are that much closer to an XMC-2!
Mark
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Post by cwt on Jan 1, 2019 12:27:12 GMT -5
I'm actually quite excited by the XMC-2; it looks like there will finally be enough on offer to push me from my old AVP-A1HD. One thing that should be very encouraging for XMC-1 owners is that it looks like the new RMC-1 and probably the XMC-2 will use the exact same HDMI boards so I would speculate that an HDMI 2.1 upgrade for the XMC-1 would be possible (Although demand would determine if its worth the firmware work). I hope your correct about the XMC1 getting hdmi 2.1 but I would be more certain of the XMC2 mainly because of the difficulties in getting it to converse with the older TI architecture [its been hard enough with the current 2.0b board negating the analogue devices switchers which couldn't handle 18gbps uhd -XMC-1 uses two Analog Devices ADV7625 video transceivers.. ] and the likely common ground circuitry shared by the RMC1 and 2 and XMC2 Nothing else on the current market that has the all important l/c/r quad differential [as Emo calls it] input to output  Not cheap unbalanced . |
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Post by repeetavx on Jan 1, 2019 12:39:00 GMT -5
So if I understand correctly, the XMC-1 only has "Quad Differential" on the left and right channels and not the center. Or is it "only" fully balanced on the right and left channels.
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Post by garbulky on Jan 1, 2019 14:50:19 GMT -5
So if I understand correctly, the XMC-1 only has "Quad Differential" on the left and right channels and not the center. Or is it "only" fully balanced on the right and left channels. Quad differential is the same as fully balanced |
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Post by emofrmcgy on Jan 1, 2019 20:09:08 GMT -5
Yes, the XMC-1 is discontinued; long live the XMC-2.
But, yes, we will continue to support the XMC-1.
And, yes, the Atmos upgrade board is still on the way....
Our current estimate is late Q1 / early Q2. Can you provide current estimate for xmc2 release ? Will it offer more than one Dirac preset ? |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jan 1, 2019 21:15:48 GMT -5
If I upgrade my XMC-1, it would be for the XMC-2 for sure as I don't need more than 7.2.4. Now that my XMC-1 with V3 Board is running solid after 6 months of issues, I am OK waiting for the XMC-2 and I will get it when it's bugs free like my XMC-1 is right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 16:10:42 GMT -5
OK, now that have have my helmet & bullet-proof vest on...
I have XPA5 & want a Basx 500 or 700 for more surround channels, How do I connect XMC-2 to those amps?
No I don't want to buy balanced to unbalance cables, I already have high quality RCA cables, bad design decision., just my opinion.
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Post by rbk123 on Jan 2, 2019 16:14:35 GMT -5
OK, now that have have my helmet & bullet-proof vest on... I have XPA5 & want a Basx 500 or 700 for more surround channels, How do I connect XMC-2 to those amps? No I don't want to buy balanced to unbalance cables, I already have high quality RCA cables, bad design decision., just my opinion. Well, assuming the XMC-2 is all XLR connectors, you have no choice other than new cables or get adapters. I don't know if the XMC-2 will be all XLR, though. |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 2, 2019 16:17:21 GMT -5
The XMC-2 is both MORE than the XMC-1, and LESS than the XMC-1, at the same time. Its an UPGRADE and a DOWNGRADE, at the same time. Fact, not opinion. Unfortunate if you ask me, which is opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 16:17:39 GMT -5
OK, now that have have my helmet & bullet-proof vest on... I have XPA5 & want a Basx 500 or 700 for more surround channels, How do I connect XMC-2 to those amps? No I don't want to buy balanced to unbalance cables, I already have high quality RCA cables, bad design decision., just my opinion. Well, assuming the XMC-2 is all XLR connectors, you have no choice other than new cables or get adapters. I don't know if the XMC-2 will be all XLR, though. Every picture I've seen is XLR only edit- Looks like B-stock shopping is in my future |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 2, 2019 16:19:20 GMT -5
OK, now that have have my helmet & bullet-proof vest on... I have XPA5 & want a Basx 500 or 700 for more surround channels, How do I connect XMC-2 to those amps? No I don't want to buy balanced to unbalance cables, I already have high quality RCA cables, bad design decision., just my opinion. Well, assuming the XMC-2 is all XLR connectors, you have no choice other than new cables or get adapters. I don't know if the XMC-2 will be all XLR, though. Based on the pictures we have seen, it does only have XLR connectors. Emotiva likes to change their mind a lot, so it could change. But considering the RMC-1 only has XLR, I doubt it this time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 16:28:29 GMT -5
Aren't the stereo blades on the XPA gen 3 RCA also? hmmmm.
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Post by emofrmcgy on Jan 2, 2019 16:30:14 GMT -5
Aren't the stereo blades on the XPA gen 3 RCA also? hmmmm. Rca and xlr. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 16:53:10 GMT -5
Aren't the stereo blades on the XPA gen 3 RCA also? hmmmm. Rca and xlr. My bad for not looking before I made that statement. Wondering if Emo is considering with XLR only, they just narrowed their potential buyer base |
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Post by emofrmcgy on Jan 2, 2019 16:59:02 GMT -5
My bad for not looking before I made that statement. Wondering if Emo is considering with XLR only, they just narrowed their potential buyer base I made the same assumption a while back. Had to double check the pictures. I’d be happy if they released an xmc with only unbalanced connections. (Cough cough Emersa) |
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Clear as mud eah 
Not cheap unbalanced .
