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Post by musicfan on Jan 19, 2019 11:18:29 GMT -5
It may have been. But your not getting the point You said the atmos in the xmc-1 was predicated on the rmc-1 board. Not accurate. The xmc-1 has had plans to have atmos with or without the rmc-1 bird development. So weather they had started the rmc-1 in 2016 (highly doubtful) has no bearing on the xmc-1 at that point They also originally planned to build all following processors on the xmc platform. But that has also changed. The xmc was NEVER supposed to have atmos. It was decided after the fact that it “could” be done after Emotiva was put through the wringer over it being an outdated product at release. I remember selling my xmc because when Dan said it wouldn’t happen and if you don’t like it buy something else... (among other things) No one thought it would take 5-6 years or more...from release for the atmos board to materialize. But it was 2 years after release that atmos was found “could” be implemented. Correct Cause they marketed the xmc as the last processor you lll need for 15 years. And it already wasn’t able to do the latest codecs. So makes sense they had to shoehorn it in. They realized how bad it would be to keep the hell no to atmos stance. |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 19, 2019 11:38:17 GMT -5
It may have been. But your not getting the point You said the atmos in the xmc-1 was predicated on the rmc-1 board. Not accurate. The xmc-1 has had plans to have atmos with or without the rmc-1 bird development. So weather they had started the rmc-1 in 2016 (highly doubtful) has no bearing on the xmc-1 at that point They also originally planned to build all following processors on the xmc platform. But that has also changed. The xmc was NEVER supposed to have atmos. It was decided after the fact that it “could” be done after Emotiva was put through the wringer over it being an outdated product at release. I remember selling my xmc because when Dan said it wouldn’t happen and if you don’t like it buy something else... (among other things) No one thought it would take 5-6 years or more...from release for the atmos board to materialize. But it was 2 years after release that atmos was found “could” be implemented. I believe Tony ansat was the one who originally came up with the idea of repurposing outputs. But I was the one basically leading the charge of putting Emotiva "through the wringer" as you say. Although I most certainly wouldn't call it that. I remember a long very civil back and forth conversation between Keith and myself that discussed all the issues at the time. It was basically that discussion that lead directly to Dan changing his mind. If anyone got bashed over the head it was me. There were a whole bunch of people calling me things and basically saying I was just being an jacka$$. Mostly blue koolaiders who don't like anyone rocking the Emotiva boat. How dare I ask questions and push for goals when I didn't even own an XMC-1. What they didn't "get" was that I was just trying to help everyone, including Emotiva, to allow the XMC-1 to go on like never expected, to allow it to work better and do more, and to help Emotiva create a stronger legacy. I didn't hear anyone complaining when Dan said they would do it. I also didn't hear anyone apologizing to me either. Par for the course, but thats water under the bridge. Where things have gone down the tubes is that the upgrade board was supposed to be available a long time ago, as in like Q1 2017. That timing would have made it extremely relevant. Now, as it is, it appears it's going to be dead last, after the RMC-1, after the XMC-2, and perhaps after the RMC-1L. From past experience that puts my GUESS at 2020. At that point, how many people will still find it relevant? |
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Post by emofrmcgy on Jan 19, 2019 11:42:18 GMT -5
They also originally planned to build all following processors on the xmc platform. But that has also changed. The xmc was NEVER supposed to have atmos. It was decided after the fact that it “could” be done after Emotiva was put through the wringer over it being an outdated product at release. I remember selling my xmc because when Dan said it wouldn’t happen and if you don’t like it buy something else... (among other things) No one thought it would take 5-6 years or more...from release for the atmos board to materialize. But it was 2 years after release that atmos was found “could” be implemented. I believe Tony ansat was the one who originally came up with the idea of repurposing outputs. But I was the one basically leading the charge of putting Emotiva "through the wringer" as you say. Although I most certainly wouldn't call it that. I remember a long very civil back and forth conversation between Keith and myself that discussed all the issues at the time. It was basically that discussion that lead directly to Dan changing his mind. If anyone got bashed over the head it was me. There were a whole bunch of people calling me things and basically saying I was just being an jacka$$. Mostly blue koolaiders who don't like anyone rocking the Emotiva boat. How dare I ask questions and push for goals when I didn't even own an XMC-1. What they didn't "get" was that I was just trying to help everyone, including Emotiva, to allow the XMC-1 to go on like never expected, to allow it to work better and do more, and to help Emotiva create a stronger legacy. I didn't hear anyone complaining when Dan said they would do it. I also didn't hear anyone apologizing to me either. Par for the course, but thats water under the bridge. Where things have gone down the tubes is that the upgrade board was supposed to be available a long time ago, as in like Q1 2017. That timing would have made it extremely relevant. Now, as it is, it appears it's going to be dead last, after the RMC-1, after the XMC-2, and perhaps after the RMC-1L. From past experience that puts my GUESS at 2020. At that point, how many people will still find it relevant? I actually thought it was you who recommended the use of the zone 2 outputs but my memory does fail from time to time. I also remember Brian and I being VERY vocal back then. This before the time of bonzomites. I remember being called a poohboi on numerous occasions. Lol. |
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Post by ansat on Jan 19, 2019 11:51:48 GMT -5
I believe Tony ansat was the one who originally came up with the idea of repurposing outputs. But I was the one basically leading the charge of putting Emotiva "through the wringer" as you say. Although I most certainly wouldn't call it that. I remember a long very civil back and forth conversation between Keith and myself that discussed all the issues at the time. It was basically that discussion that lead directly to Dan changing his mind. If anyone got bashed over the head it was me. There were a whole bunch of people calling me things and basically saying I was just being an jacka$$. Mostly blue koolaiders who don't like anyone rocking the Emotiva boat. How dare I ask questions and push for goals when I didn't even own an XMC-1. What they didn't "get" was that I was just trying to help everyone, including Emotiva, to allow the XMC-1 to go on like never expected, to allow it to work better and do more, and to help Emotiva create a stronger legacy. I didn't hear anyone complaining when Dan said they would do it. I also didn't hear anyone apologizing to me either. Par for the course, but thats water under the bridge. Where things have gone down the tubes is that the upgrade board was supposed to be available a long time ago, as in like Q1 2017. That timing would have made it extremely relevant. Now, as it is, it appears it's going to be dead last, after the RMC-1, after the XMC-2, and perhaps after the RMC-1L. From past experience that puts my GUESS at 2020. At that point, how many people will still find it relevant? I actually thought it was you who recommended the use of the zone 2 outputs but my memory does fail from time to time. I also remember Brian and I being VERY vocal back then. This before the time of bonzomites. I remember being called a poohboi on numerous occasions. Lol. I don’t even remember at this point. But the thought process was there was showing there was demand in hopes supply would follow. T |
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Post by musicfan on Jan 19, 2019 11:56:51 GMT -5
haha thinkng of hoe long its been...good thing i sold my XMC-1 when i realized the slight improvement of sound wasnt worth the loss of atmos (and that was when there were only a handful of ATMOS titles available)
if i did what EMO and koolaiders always suggest....and be patient and wait...I would have missed out on the last FOUR YEARS+ of incredible atmos and DTS-x sound....and even better i have the best of both worlds..too bad its not with pretty emo blue controlling it
Emo keeps missing the boat
keep waiting for the next thing and you'll be dead before you know it
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Post by emofrmcgy on Jan 19, 2019 11:56:55 GMT -5
I actually thought it was you who recommended the use of the zone 2 outputs but my memory does fail from time to time. I also remember Brian and I being VERY vocal back then. This before the time of bonzomites. I remember being called a poohboi on numerous occasions. Lol. I don’t even remember at this point. But the thought process was there was showing there was demand in hopes supply would follow. T On a side note. Thanks for all your work on Dirac and the xmc back then. |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 19, 2019 11:57:35 GMT -5
I believe Tony ansat was the one who originally came up with the idea of repurposing outputs. But I was the one basically leading the charge of putting Emotiva "through the wringer" as you say. Although I most certainly wouldn't call it that. I remember a long very civil back and forth conversation between Keith and myself that discussed all the issues at the time. It was basically that discussion that lead directly to Dan changing his mind. If anyone got bashed over the head it was me. There were a whole bunch of people calling me things and basically saying I was just being an jacka$$. Mostly blue koolaiders who don't like anyone rocking the Emotiva boat. How dare I ask questions and push for goals when I didn't even own an XMC-1. What they didn't "get" was that I was just trying to help everyone, including Emotiva, to allow the XMC-1 to go on like never expected, to allow it to work better and do more, and to help Emotiva create a stronger legacy. I didn't hear anyone complaining when Dan said they would do it. I also didn't hear anyone apologizing to me either. Par for the course, but thats water under the bridge. Where things have gone down the tubes is that the upgrade board was supposed to be available a long time ago, as in like Q1 2017. That timing would have made it extremely relevant. Now, as it is, it appears it's going to be dead last, after the RMC-1, after the XMC-2, and perhaps after the RMC-1L. From past experience that puts my GUESS at 2020. At that point, how many people will still find it relevant? I actually thought it was you who recommended the use of the zone 2 outputs but my memory does fail from time to time. I also remember Brian and I being VERY vocal back then. This before the time of bonzomites. I remember being called a poohboi on numerous occasions. Lol. It was most definitely not my idea. I just loved the idea so much that I pushed for it. Since I pushed for it I sort of inadvertently became the big voice at the time. The only thing I did that ended up being relevant was that conversation with Keith, because it was THAT conversation that actually got Emotiva to "do it" so to speak. Yep, that was the old term before someone coined Bonzomites. I don't recall who that was, but it wasn't me. Now I appear to be famous. 😁 |
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Post by ansat on Jan 19, 2019 12:03:45 GMT -5
I don’t even remember at this point. But the thought process was there was showing there was demand in hopes supply would follow. T On a side note. Thanks for all your work on Dirac and the xmc back then. Not a problem. Just sold the xmc last week. Looking to put the RMC through the same routine. We will see what time looks like as I get things up and running. But that is for another thread. T |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 19, 2019 12:08:58 GMT -5
On a side note. Thanks for all your work on Dirac and the xmc back then. Not a problem. Just sold the xmc last week. Looking to put the RMC through the same routine. We will see what time looks like as I get things up and running. But that is for another thread. T I hope you have been keeping up with the official owners thread. As of right now the RMC-1 isn't ready for prime time, nor does it have Dirac. |
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Post by ansat on Jan 19, 2019 12:29:48 GMT -5
Not a problem. Just sold the xmc last week. Looking to put the RMC through the same routine. We will see what time looks like as I get things up and running. But that is for another thread. T I hope you have been keeping up with the official owners thread. As of right now the RMC-1 isn't ready for prime time, nor does it have Dirac. I already have it. Browsed the threads lightly. But my expectations are the same as the XMC as far as the bugs. Since I am doing a 9.1.6 theater only with the OPPO as the only source, not too many concerns. I should have all the original REW files from the 7.1 install, so I am hoping for something not too painful. The big challenge is getting the RSLs installed in the ceiling. I used furring strips to decouple the ceiling and double drywall. So finding my holes for 6 speakers is taking some time. Hope to finish that today. T |
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Post by Talley on Jan 19, 2019 14:21:18 GMT -5
Well why did I just in October buy the 4k chip? If it’s being discontinued and NO Atmos release then I wasted my money.
Why did I waste my money on the 4k? I don’t need any xmc2 just need my Atmos to give me what was promised.
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Post by emofrmcgy on Jan 19, 2019 14:50:12 GMT -5
Well why did I just in October buy the 4k chip? If it’s being discontinued and NO Atmos release then I wasted my money. Why did I waste my money on the 4k? I don’t need any xmc2 just need my Atmos to give me what was promised. Because you invested into a promise. Atmos is coming... Patience is a virtue when it comes to anything Emotiva. |
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Post by cwt on Jan 19, 2019 23:54:47 GMT -5
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Post by rbk123 on Jan 20, 2019 9:03:47 GMT -5
Well why did I just in October buy the 4k chip? If it’s being discontinued and NO Atmos release then I wasted my money. They'll release the Atmos board for it, just not soon. Maybe end of this year as they intend to roll out the RMC-1L and XMC-2 first. |
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Post by modicen on Jan 20, 2019 11:19:58 GMT -5
Delete please, posted in wrong thread
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Post by wkingincharge on Jan 20, 2019 17:55:10 GMT -5
I have been a owner of the XMC since it was introduced and have been very happy with its performance and sound especially coming from a UMC-1 which was the opposite experience. I considered changing to something else in the price range but did not feel the gains were enough when the time came even after hearing some really nice Dolby Atmos home setups. Instead the plan concluded with me just doing the XMC 4K upgrade and adding 2 more speakers for a nice sounding 7.4 setup.
I will cross the atmos bridge again when its up on the product page with pricing .
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Post by creimes on Jan 24, 2019 23:17:37 GMT -5
Hair Nick is there any way to have a section on the Emotiva website for past products like the website had a few revisions back that had a "Retired" section, something we can still link to for info and specs.  Cheers, Chad annnnnnndddddd Hair Nick  |
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Post by vcautokid on Jan 24, 2019 23:35:25 GMT -5
I am curious just how far you could take the XMC-1. At some point it won't make any sense to upgrade it anymore unless the architecture is that open. I still wonder how you would physically manage more channels? Don't think you could.
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Post by adaboy on Jan 25, 2019 10:13:09 GMT -5
I am curious just how far you could take the XMC-1. At some point it won't make any sense to upgrade it anymore unless the architecture is that open. I still wonder how you would physically manage more channels? Don't think you could.  |
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Post by A guest on Mar 26, 2019 17:20:51 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one is even questioning the reason for discontinuing the XMC-1. If I remember correctly, its probably been in production for about 3 years? Why stop production already? Who's to say the XMC2 or RMC won't be replaced within a couple years? XMC was $2500, not exactly spare change. So much for future proof.
Very disappointed!!
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