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Post by bootman on Jan 2, 2019 19:43:05 GMT -5
OK, now that have have my helmet & bullet-proof vest on... I have XPA5 & want a Basx 500 or 700 for more surround channels, How do I connect XMC-2 to those amps? No I don't want to buy balanced to unbalance cables, I already have high quality RCA cables, bad design decision., just my opinion. Flame away.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 20:26:58 GMT -5
Some just take things waaaay too personal.
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Post by emofrmcgy on Jan 2, 2019 20:34:32 GMT -5
OK, now that have have my helmet & bullet-proof vest on... I have XPA5 & want a Basx 500 or 700 for more surround channels, How do I connect XMC-2 to those amps? No I don't want to buy balanced to unbalance cables, I already have high quality RCA cables, bad design decision., just my opinion. Flame away. might work better. |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 2, 2019 21:28:34 GMT -5
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Post by pknaz on Jan 3, 2019 15:31:24 GMT -5
There was a post a while back in the RMC-1 thread that they will provide adapters for those that need them
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 3, 2019 18:17:40 GMT -5
Why am I not surprised that the XMC-1 is discontinued before the XMC-2 is available, in fact it doesn't even have a confirmed launch date, such that we don't even know how long we have to wait. To me this is typical Emotive strategy, it was the way with the UMC-200 to MC-700, it is the way with the XDA-2 (were is the XDA-3?), it is the way with the DC-1 (what about that DC-2?), Egos etc etc. It happens far to often to be a timing accident. It seems like it's their business strategy to simply run out the old product before (well before) the replacement (upgraded) product is available. If I check out the Emotiva product page; Seriously  This might just work when you are selling direct and have a relatively small and loyal customer base. But it sure as hell doesn't work when you have an international distributor and retail chain to supply through. They don't like interrupted supply, especially long interrupted supply without any confirmed end to it. If we think us consumers are unhappy, you should hear what the retailers are saying  For sure I don't have all of the inside information that may explain the timing gaps, but it happens far to often to be anything other than being as a result of deliberate strategy. Cheers Gary |
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Post by dimora on Jan 4, 2019 15:48:03 GMT -5
Yes, the XMC-1 is discontinued; long live the XMC-2.
But, yes, we will continue to support the XMC-1.
And, yes, the Atmos upgrade board is still on the way....
Our current estimate is late Q1 / early Q2. Oh ok. Awesome. (for the record you didn't state what year  ) Thanks. The XMC-1 has provided me with everything I needed so little need to upgrade outside of atmos capability. Therein lies the rub...They've been promising the ATMOS board for a long time now. I would be absolutely astonished (but quite pleased) if we see it by Q2 2019. I'm building a home theater with ATMOS speakers right now...was hoping to use my XMC-1 as the centerpiece...but I may have to switch to Marantz. I could buy an RMC-1...but with no DIRAC support (and who knows when that will happen) and lots of problems noted in the RMC threads, I am hesitant to drop 5 grand on a so-so product that isn't even "complete" yet with no DIRAC and one that is having issues. I am NOT impressed with my HDCP2.2 / 4K HDMI board upgrade in the Emo...it has made the unit sluggish - VERY slow to change inputs, and it loses sound / locks up all the time now when switching inputs unless I do a "hard" reboot with the switch on the back. |
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Post by cawgijoe on Jan 4, 2019 17:01:58 GMT -5
I rarely have to do a hard reboot on my XMC-1 after the latest firmware update. I’m happy with it.
RMC-1 is too rich for my blood even if/when they get it right.
May end up with another Emotiva processor in the future.
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Post by creimes on Jan 4, 2019 17:25:32 GMT -5
Why am I not surprised that the XMC-1 is discontinued before the XMC-2 is available, in fact it doesn't even have a confirmed launch date, such that we don't even know how long we have to wait. To me this is typical Emotive strategy, it was the way with the UMC-200 to MC-700, it is the way with the XDA-2 (were is the XDA-3?), it is the way with the DC-1 (what about that DC-2?), Egos etc etc. It happens far to often to be a timing accident. It seems like it's their business strategy to simply run out the old product before (well before) the replacement (upgraded) product is available. If I check out the Emotiva product page; Seriously This might just work when you are selling direct and have a relatively small and loyal customer base. But it sure as hell doesn't work when you have an international distributor and retail chain to supply through. They don't like interrupted supply, especially long interrupted supply without any confirmed end to it. If we think us consumers are unhappy, you should hear what the retailers are saying For sure I don't have all of the inside information that may explain the timing gaps, but it happens far to often to be anything other than being as a result of deliberate strategy. Cheers Gary Don`t forget the powered Airmotiv line, been a long time now and I don`t know anyone that has them that does not really enjoy them, even if they have their hands full they should have kept the 4s, 5s and 6s in production, but I also don`t know every factor but what I do know is I want to lust after the Gen 3 models haha, I remember seeing some pics of them like 2 years ago at an audio show... what gives Emotiva ?? |
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Post by pjmbarlick on Jan 4, 2019 17:54:32 GMT -5
This....
:...I am NOT impressed with my HDCP2.2 / 4K HDMI board upgrade in the Emo...it has made the unit sluggish - VERY slow to change inputs, and it loses sound / locks up all the time now when switching inputs unless I do a "hard" reboot with the switch on the back...."
I 100% agree with this statement, and is exactly how I feel.
So despite all the helpful talk about HDMI cables, CEC, ARC etc etc, there are more than enough of us suffering from these symptoms for Emotiva to recognise this is a REAL problem!
It's not user error. It's not Not cable error....It's a fault that needs fixing!
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 4, 2019 19:24:35 GMT -5
I guess "slow" is a comparative, I don't find my XMC-1 to be any "slower" than any other AVR or processor that I have tried with 4K. For sure they are "slower" than they were with 2K, but based on experience I expected that. Every generation of video and or audio standards means that the handshaking takes longer, for example swapping from SD to HD took longer, Toslink to HDMI took longer, HDCP 2.2 takes longer than HDCP 2.1 etc etc.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by cawgijoe on Jan 4, 2019 19:33:31 GMT -5
This.... :...I am NOT impressed with my HDCP2.2 / 4K HDMI board upgrade in the Emo...it has made the unit sluggish - VERY slow to change inputs, and it loses sound / locks up all the time now when switching inputs unless I do a "hard" reboot with the switch on the back...."I 100% agree with this statement, and is exactly how I feel. So despite all the helpful talk about HDMI cables, CEC, ARC etc etc, there are more than enough of us suffering from these symptoms for Emotiva to recognise this is a REAL problem! It's not user error. It's not Not cable error....It's a fault that needs fixing! I thought the last firmware update was supposed to address these issues. Am I wrong? I still occasionally get loss of audio and sync to video, but it’s much more rare then before 5.4. I did not change any hardware. Full transparency, I don’t use CEC. |
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Post by RichGuy on Jan 4, 2019 21:23:45 GMT -5
There's no need to worry, ChuckieNut is still selling bootleg oops I mean New XMC-1's and has plenty available.  |
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Post by zestychicken on Jan 6, 2019 23:28:53 GMT -5
This.... :...I am NOT impressed with my HDCP2.2 / 4K HDMI board upgrade in the Emo...it has made the unit sluggish - VERY slow to change inputs, and it loses sound / locks up all the time now when switching inputs unless I do a "hard" reboot with the switch on the back...."I 100% agree with this statement, and is exactly how I feel. So despite all the helpful talk about HDMI cables, CEC, ARC etc etc, there are more than enough of us suffering from these symptoms for Emotiva to recognise this is a REAL problem! It's not user error. It's not Not cable error....It's a fault that needs fixing! I am very worried about this as well. Before I upgraded the video board the thing was working pretty well. Then they introduce the new board and the software absolutely goes to sh**. They forgot features they had added, switching time increased, time for audio to kick in went up and you get audio just dropping out. There seems to be a big problem with the AppleTV especially. What makes be most bitter is memories of the UMC-1. They really never got the software fixed for that device and once the XMC-1 came along, they forgot about it. Thing is a doorstop now. Now that they are d/c-ing the XMC-1, I'm worried they will abandon their customers as they have in the past. In the end, I'm worried that a surround sound processor is just too complex for a small company like Emotiva. Marantz or similar can do it because they have more resources. I sure as hell have no interest in dropping 5k on a processor from Emotiva. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 6, 2019 23:54:26 GMT -5
There seems to be a big problem with the AppleTV especially. My Apple TV4K gives me no problems at all, once I changed the settings. Maybe that's because I have a Samsung TV so no Dolby Vision and I have CEC/ARC turned off. FWIW my ATV4K is set to "4KHDR 60 hz", chroma "4.2.2" with Match Range and Match Rate both "on". Cheers Gary |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 7, 2019 0:01:40 GMT -5
There seems to be a big problem with the AppleTV especially. My Apple TV4K gives me no problems at all, once I changed the settings. Maybe that's because I have a Samsung TV so no Dolby Vision and I have CEC/ARC turned off. FWIW my ATV4K is set to "4KHDR 60 hz", chroma "4.2.2" with Match Range and Match Rate both "on". Cheers Gary Same here Gary Cook I’ve had no problems with the same TV and and settings. 👍 |
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 7, 2019 1:42:33 GMT -5
My Apple TV4K gives me no problems at all, once I changed the settings. Maybe that's because I have a Samsung TV so no Dolby Vision and I have CEC/ARC turned off. FWIW my ATV4K is set to "4KHDR 60 hz", chroma "4.2.2" with Match Range and Match Rate both "on". Cheers Gary Same here Gary Cook I’ve had no problems with the same TV and and settings. 👍 The ATV4K in my home theater is ROCK solid along with my Oppo’s. It’s my Comcast STB that gives me trouble as the startup input, thats why I have the ATV4K as my startup input as it or my Oppos never fail on their handshakes. After start up all of my sources change inputs successfully. |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 7, 2019 1:56:30 GMT -5
Same here Gary Cook I’ve had no problems with the same TV and and settings. 👍 The ATV4K in my home theater is ROCK solid along with my Oppo’s. It’s my Comcast STB that gives me trouble as the startup input, thats why I have the ATV4K as my startup input as it or my Oppos never fail on their handshakes. After start up all of my sources change inputs successfully. Have you tried to exchange your cable box for a newer version? I’m about due to do it with my cable provider. About every two years or so I upgrade. |
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Post by bolle on Jan 7, 2019 6:55:25 GMT -5
Actually one thing which should help us to XMC-1 users to get updates for quite some time regarding HDMI is that the HDMI 2.0 board in the XMC-1 is exactly the same as in the RMC-1. This should greatly reduce the effort for Emotiva and therefore lead to improvements on the HDMI side for the RMC-1 also trickling down to the XMC-1.
This won´t apply to DSP stuff due to the different CPU used for that but still that gives us a better chance of ongoing support / bug fixes.
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Post by rbk123 on Jan 7, 2019 11:06:26 GMT -5
Actually one thing which should help us to XMC-1 users to get updates for quite some time regarding HDMI is that the HDMI 2.0 board in the XMC-1 is exactly the same as in the RMC-1. This should greatly reduce the effort for Emotiva and therefore lead to improvements on the HDMI side for the RMC-1 also trickling down to the XMC-1. Unfortunately the XMC-1 is a different platform, so a completely different code base for the firmware. The XMC-2 will benefit from what you mentioned, though. |
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