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Post by Boomzilla on Mar 1, 2019 0:45:43 GMT -5
...Lots of stuff to look at in that range. I was browsing Agon earlier with search set to range speakers from $500-1500. Paradigm, Thiel, Sonus 2.5, Vandy 2ce, B&W, Meridian, etc. Lots of options if he were willing to go used. Scott Mixing threads a bit, Scott - the amigo who wanted the $1K speakers got Klipsched @ the BestBuy & is happily rocking on. This thread is about MY next speakers, and the price range is far more flexible. But I'm in absolutely no hurry. For the time being, I'll scoop up a $25 yard-sale sub & keep using my Thiels and/or my Klipsch monitors until they sell. THEN it's time to get serious about what I might want. To my surprise, there are both a Goldenear dealer and a Revel dealer in town, AND Wilson Audio in New Orleans carries Magnepan. So lots of audition options available... |
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Post by simpleman68 on Mar 1, 2019 7:05:42 GMT -5
...Lots of stuff to look at in that range. I was browsing Agon earlier with search set to range speakers from $500-1500. Paradigm, Thiel, Sonus 2.5, Vandy 2ce, B&W, Meridian, etc. Lots of options if he were willing to go used. Scott Mixing threads a bit, Scott - the amigo who wanted the $1K speakers got Klipsched @ the BestBuy & is happily rocking on. This thread is about MY next speakers, and the price range is far more flexible. But I'm in absolutely no hurry. For the time being, I'll scoop up a $25 yard-sale sub & keep using my Thiels and/or my Klipsch monitors until they sell. THEN it's time to get serious about what I might want. To my surprise, there are both a Goldenear dealer and a Revel dealer in town, AND Wilson Audio in New Orleans carries Magnepan. So lots of audition options available... Doh... my bad
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Post by simpleman68 on Mar 1, 2019 7:27:02 GMT -5
...Lots of stuff to look at in that range. I was browsing Agon earlier with search set to range speakers from $500-1500. Paradigm, Thiel, Sonus 2.5, Vandy 2ce, B&W, Meridian, etc. Lots of options if he were willing to go used. Scott For the time being, I'll scoop up a $25 yard-sale sub & keep using my Thiels and/or my Klipsch monitors until they sell. THEN it's time to get serious about what I might want. To my surprise, there are both a Goldenear dealer and a Revel dealer in town, AND Wilson Audio in New Orleans carries Magnepan. So lots of audition options available... My opinions of course:
I've not heard Goldenear but I'd like to, given all the great things I've read. Revel has long made a great sounding speaker and hits above its price point. Their smaller monitors have impressive range/fullness.
Wilsons sound great but the price tag far outweighs value particularly on their entry level stuff. Maggies have amazing imaging, beautiful mids but trade off for minimal bass.
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Post by klinemj on Mar 1, 2019 9:25:35 GMT -5
Mixing threads a bit, Scott - the amigo who wanted the $1K speakers got Klipsched @ the BestBuy & is happily rocking on. This thread is about MY next speakers, and the price range is far more flexible. But I'm in absolutely no hurry. For the time being, I'll scoop up a $25 yard-sale sub & keep using my Thiels and/or my Klipsch monitors until they sell. THEN it's time to get serious about what I might want. To my surprise, there are both a Goldenear dealer and a Revel dealer in town, AND Wilson Audio in New Orleans carries Magnepan. So lots of audition options available... Doh... my bad I had completely missed that the $1K speakers were for a friend of boom's, and I was thinking "why did Boom start 2 threads on a similar topic. Then, when the post on buying came up I thought "Boom went to a big box and got big boxes? What???" So, "Double doh" from me! Mark |
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Post by KeithL on Mar 1, 2019 9:31:27 GMT -5
It's also well worth remembering that, especially when it comes to speakers, we all have sometimes very different preferences.
For example, some people happen to like the specific sound characteristics of Magneplanars, or Klipsch horns, while others just plain do not.
I had completely missed that the $1K speakers were for a friend of boom's, and I was thinking "why did Boom start 2 threads on a similar topic. Then, when the post on buying came up I thought "Boom went to a big box and got big boxes? What???" So, "Double doh" from me! Mark |
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Post by KeithL on Mar 1, 2019 9:49:44 GMT -5
I agree.... however, for me, the catch there is usually cost.
I recall a certain ad for some expensive speakers that were available in a variety of really cool exotic veneers... for $5k extra a pair. (The speakers weren't $5k a pair.... it was $5k MORE to get them with your choice of cool veneer instead of flat black.)
Since most of us are on some sort of budget - especially when it comes to speakers - it is often a matter of deciding whether to pay extra for a cool finish or to spend that extra money on audio performance.
Back when I was in college I always opted for real oiled walnut veneer instead of vinyl (but, when I bought my Advent Loudspeakers, it only cost me an extra $150 for the pair to get it.) Nowadays, I prefer to spend most of my money on performance, and just close my eyes when I'm listening to the music.
There's also the matter of individual preference. Personally, I prefer an oiled finish (the kind where you actually rub on some linseed oil every few years - and you don't sit wet glasses on your speakers). I have never seen ANY high gloss shiny finish - at any price - that I think looks as good as an oiled finish.
And I absolutely dislike speakers that have a super-smooth varnished finish because, no matter how well it's applied, it looks like fancy plastic to me. Likewise, many people really like "high gloss piano black"; however, to me, it looks like plastic, and it shows up lint and fingerprints far too well. I have owned exactly one pair of speakers with a really nice piano black finish; never again.
(I don't want a pair of speakers that I have to dust once a week.... then dust with a microfiber cloth to remove the lint left by the dust cloth.)
It's also worth pointing out that the design of the speaker itself has a lot to do with this. Compared to the cost of adding veneer to a plain rectangular box, surfacing a box with odd angles and facets costs more, and veneering curved surfaces costs a lot more. (As a result, some speaker designers may actually have to make a decision to alter their optimal design "to make it economical to apply fancy finishes to it" - which implies a further trade-off between finish and audio performance.)
Would you pay $20k to get a really fancy paint job on a $25k car? (Or, to put that differently, for the same $45k price tag, would you prefer a $45k car, or a $25k car with a $20k paint job?) Unfortunately, because of the hand labor involved, and the complexities involved in packing and shipping them to avoid damage, fancy wood finishes tend to cost a lot these days.
(And they are one of the main reason why some of those speakers with the really cool finishes cost so much.)
Obviously everyone has their own preference when it comes to looks. Personally I prefer oiled walnut or dark oak veneer. (And, no, I can't stand high-gloss varnish, or that "piano black" finish, both of which look like "expensive plastic" to me - my $150 Roku is finished in "piano black".) Unfortunately, real wood veneer is rather expensive, and there are lots of different kinds.... So, if you pick one particular type, then it will only be a few people's favorite, and offering custom veneer options gets very expensive.... (Almost everybody likes real wood veneer... but very few people like the price tag.)
I've got to say that, compared to some of the colors I've seen Tekton Pendragons painted, I much prefer even black vinyl... it least it's a neutral color.
Black lacquer works equally well for me... although I don't like the gloss black and some flat black lacquer tends to take greasy fingerprints rather easily.
(I saw a pair of Pendragons once... painted in the same exact aqua green that was popular in bathrooms in the 1950's... usually with matching acrylic plastic sea horses hanging on the walls... no thanks!) However, I've got to say that, when it comes to speakers, I'm much more interested in how they sound than in how they look.
I agree Keith, the most important thing that matters is how they sound to YOU. However, there's certainly something to be said about the look of fine wood finishes. Salk speakers come to mind. Some of their finishes are absolutely stunning! Why not have speakers that not only sound great, but look great in your listening space too? |
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Post by DYohn on Mar 1, 2019 10:07:04 GMT -5
Keith, I've owned a Mercedes CL550 and a Maserati Quatroporte with custom paint. So yes, paying "$25k for a paint job on a car" might be a bit of an exaggeration, but it is not out of the realm of possibility. Indeed, price out custom paint on a Bentley or a Rolls and let me know what you find. For some, value lies in what you want and how you want it to look. As to loudspeakers, spending $25 to $40K is not uncommon in the high-end world, but no one is suggesting Emotiva go there. (Again, I've owned Krell LAT-1's and DeVore Orangutans and Westlake SM-1's.) Clearly some of us will pay what you consider to be outrageous amounts for our gear. Emotiva could easily play at this level, but it's not your business model. You should continue to do what you do well. Boomzilla should bite the bullet and buy some new Revels, |
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Post by jackfish on Mar 1, 2019 10:12:08 GMT -5
...Lots of stuff to look at in that range. I was browsing Agon earlier with search set to range speakers from $500-1500. Paradigm, Thiel, Sonus 2.5, Vandy 2ce, B&W, Meridian, etc. Lots of options if he were willing to go used. Scott Mixing threads a bit, Scott - the amigo who wanted the $1K speakers got Klipsched @ the BestBuy & is happily rocking on. This thread is about MY next speakers, and the price range is far more flexible. But I'm in absolutely no hurry. For the time being, I'll scoop up a $25 yard-sale sub & keep using my Thiels and/or my Klipsch monitors until they sell. THEN it's time to get serious about what I might want. To my surprise, there are both a Goldenear dealer and a Revel dealer in town, AND Wilson Audio in New Orleans carries Magnepan. So lots of audition options available... If you are in no hurry then perhaps there will be an opportunity sometime for a weekend in Houston to visit Timbre to listen to Vandersteen. |
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Post by KeithL on Mar 1, 2019 11:58:33 GMT -5
As you suggest - most of OUR customers aren't interested in paying a few thousand dollars extra for nice veneer. (I know lots of people who would love to have nice real wood veneer "if we could offer it for less than $500 extra").
Unfortunately, while there are some very nice expensive speakers out there, I've also heard some that had really lovely veneer, or other cool materials, and cost tens of thousands of dollars, and still didn't sound as good as our speakers.
There seem to be quite a few people around who believe that the veneer is more important than how their speakers sound...
To me, if something is going to cost an outrageous amount of money, then it ought to perform outrageously well to justify it. I can see spending money on an expensive finish for a product that performs well... but not spending it instead of making sure that the product performs well first. I consider "playing music" to be the primary purpose of a speaker... and "being an attractive piece of furniture" a distant second.
(It always amazes me at audio shows to see really impressive, cool looking, and stunningly expensive products, that don't sound good at all.... and it can't always be "because the room is bad".... or, if it is, then they should leave it unplugged.)
Keith, I've owned a Mercedes CL550 and a Maserati Quatroporte with custom paint. So yes, paying "$25k for a paint job on a car" might be a bit of an exaggeration, but it is not out of the realm of possibility. Indeed, price out custom paint on a Bentley or a Rolls and let me know what you find. For some, value lies in what you want and how you want it to look. As to loudspeakers, spending $25 to $40K is not uncommon in the high-end world, but no one is suggesting Emotiva go there. (Again, I've owned Krell LAT-1's and DeVore Orangutans and Westlake SM-1's.) Clearly some of us will pay what you consider to be outrageous amounts for our gear. Emotiva could easily play at this level, but it's not your business model. You should continue to do what you do well. Boomzilla should bite the bullet and buy some new Revels, |
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Post by geeqner on Mar 1, 2019 12:31:41 GMT -5
As you suggest - most of OUR customers aren't interested in paying a few thousand dollars extra for nice veneer. (I know lots of people who would love to have nice real wood veneer "if we could offer it for less than $500 extra").
Unfortunately, while there are some very nice expensive speakers out there, I've also heard some that had really lovely veneer, or other cool materials, and cost tens of thousands of dollars, and still didn't sound as good as our speakers.
There seem to be quite a few people around who believe that the veneer is more important than how their speakers sound...
To me, if something is going to cost an outrageous amount of money, then it ought to perform outrageously well to justify it. I can see spending money on an expensive finish for a product that performs well... but not spending it instead of making sure that the product performs well first. I consider "playing music" to be the primary purpose of a speaker... and "being an attractive piece of furniture" a distant second.
(It always amazes me at audio shows to see really impressive, cool looking, and stunningly expensive products, that don't sound good at all.... and it can't always be "because the room is bad".... or, if it is, then they should leave it unplugged.)
Keith, I've owned a Mercedes CL550 and a Maserati Quatroporte with custom paint. So yes, paying "$25k for a paint job on a car" might be a bit of an exaggeration, but it is not out of the realm of possibility. Indeed, price out custom paint on a Bentley or a Rolls and let me know what you find. For some, value lies in what you want and how you want it to look. As to loudspeakers, spending $25 to $40K is not uncommon in the high-end world, but no one is suggesting Emotiva go there. (Again, I've owned Krell LAT-1's and DeVore Orangutans and Westlake SM-1's.) Clearly some of us will pay what you consider to be outrageous amounts for our gear. Emotiva could easily play at this level, but it's not your business model. You should continue to do what you do well. Boomzilla should bite the bullet and buy some new Revels, YES - But it's also the rare treat when someone can take the "Engineering to the NEXT Level" and effectively COMBINE BOTH Form AND Function. It's one thing to sweat the details and get the SOUND "Right" (which Emotiva is known for doing very well) It's a whole 'nother deal to be able to also make it LOOK good / cool / sleek / modern.... In the 1980s - we had a fairly high-end Audio store here in Milwaukee that handled some Bang & Olufson products. I remember hearing a set of BeoLab Penta speakers at the time - 5-Sided Stainless Steel Towers with about 15 drivers, Tri-Amped, within each speaker. I was blown-away with the full-spectrum sound and soundstage that they produced One does not typically consider Stainless Steel as a good material to use for Speaker Enclosures (I'm sure that they damped it somehow) They also did not contain any large-diameter drivers and their ability to generate surprisingly strong, well-balanced bass also amazed me. (Naturally, they were well beyond my then-College-Student budget, and the Engineering required to pull this off probably explains part of the reason for the "semi-exotic" price-tag.) |
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Post by DYohn on Mar 1, 2019 12:48:21 GMT -5
Unfortunately, while there are some very nice expensive speakers out there, I've also heard some that had really lovely veneer, or other cool materials, and cost tens of thousands of dollars, and still didn't sound as good as our speakers.
There seem to be quite a few people around who believe that the veneer is more important than how their speakers sound... ABSOLUTELY! I am not suggesting that cost is any sort of indicator of quality, especially not of sound quality, because it most certainly is not. When I had those $35K Krells I thought they SUCKED. It's just that there are some people who will pay for what they want... and as you also point out many more who have no idea what they "want" actually COSTS... like $500 for veneer when the manufacturing cost is likely more than that, let alone adding overhead and (spirits forbid) profit.  A walnut veneer on a set of Emotiva T2's would likely double or triple their retail price, especially since you'd likely sell far too few of them to justify offering the option in the first place. Like I have said many times in the past, this is why the market can sustain so much variety at so many price points. If something is important to the buyer, they can find it out there. It does not mean YOU have to provide it. |
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Post by geeqner on Mar 1, 2019 13:25:09 GMT -5
This thread is about MY next speakers, and the price range is far more flexible. But I'm in absolutely no hurry. For the time being, I'll scoop up a $25 yard-sale sub & keep using my Thiels and/or my Klipsch monitors until they sell. THEN it's time to get serious about what I might want. To my surprise, there are both a Goldenear dealer and a Revel dealer in town, AND Wilson Audio in New Orleans carries Magnepan. So lots of audition options available... Boom - GE TRITONS:If the GoldenEar Triton series intrigues you - check out these remarks (and others) from a local Audio Dealer who I (mostly) trust: www.audioemporium.com/daves-faves-goldenear-triton-reference/www.audioemporium.com/daves-faves-goldenear-triton-1-r-speakers/This particular dealer has been around since the 1980s - so he MUST be doing something right... [He ALSO sells Emotiva, ELAC, and other "STRONG Audio Drugs" that are wayyy-out of my league] ALL of the Tritons are supposed to be very foregiving WRT placement near walls / in corners / etc. (And you would have NO need for separate subs) NEW ARRIVALS FROM ELAC:The new Concentros from ELAC apparently generated a lot of buzz at CES - using the unique new Heil / "Air-Motion Transformer" tweeter. (personally, I think that they look a bit too "space-shippy" for MY tastes) www.elac.com/series/concentro/Although I am not really in the market for new speakers - I am hoping to be able to get to Axpona this year (and do some bonding with my Nephew, who considers himself to be a budding Audiophile [he works part-time at Best Buy, and has already snagged some nice B&W Diamond series speakers]) Good luck in the quest - let us know if you start gravitatin' to anything in particular or better refine your parameters |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 15:52:17 GMT -5
[/quote] I used to think this too. And don't try to sell me a bookshelf speaker, I'd say to the salesperson, or a two way tower. I guess I'm learning. My 2 way Song Towers don't need a sub, and they have two dinky little 5 1/4" woofers in each transmission line cabinet. I was seduced for a time by the Polk LSiM705s I also have. Bass response with the Polks are as good as I've heard in a tower speaker, and with great detail, but so are the ST's. It's amazing that it often takes a lifetime (I'm 71yo) to learn something! The ring radiator tweeters in the Polks are their downfall IMO. A bit shrill with some music, but are a very well rounded speaker too.[/quote]
I can't disagree with your statement, I've heard the Salks.
I've got Monitor Audio 5.5" that do well- not like the Song Towers in the TL cabinet design.
The DIY 0.5ft bookshelves (6.5") built for the partio have very good bass response. My 2.5 MA designs (with sub) just don't cut it for me any more. Either my hearing or personal taste have changed.
I think 3-way designs sound the best. (with exceptions of course).Using today's 6-8" woofers in parallel sound great.
I'm was actually considering the T1, T2 + C2 (I have yet to read a bad review) I don't care what they look like.
Wish list- The Revel F228 did impress me, but $10k...
btw, the L100 is back- new & improved. I owned them with orange grill. My buddy showed me a picture he had of my livingroom & they really stuck out- omg they were ugly.
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Post by Boomzilla on Mar 1, 2019 17:12:46 GMT -5
I agree.... however, for me, the catch there is usually cost... Yes, it is. BUT, for companies that DO offer custom wood veneers, their pricing is typically but $490 extra for real wood veneer on a pair of floor-standing speakers WITH curved cabinets - (custom wood-vinyl is FREE). Source = www.axiomaudio.com/optionswizard/wizard/index/id/10/attribute183/145/attribute184/4/attribute209/143/So saying that wood veneer on a curved speaker would be an extra $20,000 is pure hyperbole. Apparently, at least SOME customers buying a $2K pair of speakers ARE willing to pay an extra 25% for real wood. But if Emotiva doesn't consider it feasible to offer a real-wood finish, I'm OK with that. But custom wood-vinyl finishes apparently cost Axiom no more than plain black vinyl (since those options are offered to the customer at no cost). But since Axiom manufactures and Emotiva doesn't it probably WOULD cost Emotiva extra to have a wood-vinyl option in stock. All I'm saying is that if such an option were available, even at extra cost to the customer, I'd probably buy it (and I think a bunch of others might too). Boom |
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 1, 2019 18:06:10 GMT -5
This thread is about MY next speakers, and the price range is far more flexible. But I'm in absolutely no hurry. For the time being, I'll scoop up a $25 yard-sale sub & keep using my Thiels and/or my Klipsch monitors until they sell. THEN it's time to get serious about what I might want. To my surprise, there are both a Goldenear dealer and a Revel dealer in town, AND Wilson Audio in New Orleans carries Magnepan. So lots of audition options available... Boom - GE TRITONS:If the GoldenEar Triton series intrigues you - check out these remarks (and others) from a local Audio Dealer who I (mostly) trust: www.audioemporium.com/daves-faves-goldenear-triton-reference/www.audioemporium.com/daves-faves-goldenear-triton-1-r-speakers/This particular dealer has been around since the 1980s - so he MUST be doing something right... [He ALSO sells Emotiva, ELAC, and other "STRONG Audio Drugs" that are wayyy-out of my league] ALL of the Tritons are supposed to be very foregiving WRT placement near walls / in corners / etc. (And you would have NO need for separate subs) NEW ARRIVALS FROM ELAC:The new Concentros from ELAC apparently generated a lot of buzz at CES - using the unique new Heil / "Air-Motion Transformer" tweeter. (personally, I think that they look a bit too "space-shippy" for MY tastes) www.elac.com/series/concentro/Although I am not really in the market for new speakers - I am hoping to be able to get to Axpona this year (and do some bonding with my Nephew, who considers himself to be a budding Audiophile [he works part-time at Best Buy, and has already snagged some nice B&W Diamond series speakers]) Good luck in the quest - let us know if you start gravitatin' to anything in particular or better refine your parameters +1. Boom is doing himself a huge disfavor by not listening the the GE Triton series. I think they really might be a long time keeper for him if he gave them a chance. |
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Post by Boomzilla on Mar 1, 2019 20:46:55 GMT -5
+1. Boom is doing himself a huge disfavor by not listening the the GE Triton series. I think they really might be a long time keeper for him if he gave them a chance. I DO plan to audition Goldenear before I buy. There IS a local dealer, and he might even have some trade ins... |
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Post by Bonzo on Mar 1, 2019 20:54:59 GMT -5
+1. Boom is doing himself a huge disfavor by not listening the the GE Triton series. I think they really might be a long time keeper for him if he gave them a chance. I DO plan to audition Goldenear before I buy. There IS a local dealer, and he might even have some trade ins... Perfect! As you know as well or better than anyone, listening in a store is a FAR cry from listening in your room. But I find there are still inherent properties of how a particular speaker can sound, your room or not. Store listening can, at the very least, narrow things down quite a bit. Since you aren't used to having this ability, don't forget to play with the volume knob on the back for the bass. On my 7001s the proper setting in my room is about 1/3. Also, make sure you take YOUR music. A mix CD, USB drive, whatever. But you already know that. Happy hunting. |
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Post by Cogito on Mar 2, 2019 0:40:41 GMT -5
I agree.... however, for me, the catch there is usually cost. I recall a certain ad for some expensive speakers that were available in a variety of really cool exotic veneers... for $5k extra a pair. (The speakers weren't $5k a pair.... it was $5k MORE to get them with your choice of cool veneer instead of flat black.) Since most of us are on some sort of budget - especially when it comes to speakers - it is often a matter of deciding whether to pay extra for a cool finish or to spend that extra money on audio performance.
Back when I was in college I always opted for real oiled walnut veneer instead of vinyl (but, when I bought my Advent Loudspeakers, it only cost me an extra $150 for the pair to get it.) Nowadays, I prefer to spend most of my money on performance, and just close my eyes when I'm listening to the music.
There's also the matter of individual preference. Personally, I prefer an oiled finish (the kind where you actually rub on some linseed oil every few years - and you don't sit wet glasses on your speakers). I have never seen ANY high gloss shiny finish - at any price - that I think looks as good as an oiled finish.
And I absolutely dislike speakers that have a super-smooth varnished finish because, no matter how well it's applied, it looks like fancy plastic to me. Likewise, many people really like "high gloss piano black"; however, to me, it looks like plastic, and it shows up lint and fingerprints far too well. I have owned exactly one pair of speakers with a really nice piano black finish; never again.
(I don't want a pair of speakers that I have to dust once a week.... then dust with a microfiber cloth to remove the lint left by the dust cloth.)
It's also worth pointing out that the design of the speaker itself has a lot to do with this. Compared to the cost of adding veneer to a plain rectangular box, surfacing a box with odd angles and facets costs more, and veneering curved surfaces costs a lot more. (As a result, some speaker designers may actually have to make a decision to alter their optimal design "to make it economical to apply fancy finishes to it" - which implies a further trade-off between finish and audio performance.)
Would you pay $20k to get a really fancy paint job on a $25k car? (Or, to put that differently, for the same $45k price tag, would you prefer a $45k car, or a $25k car with a $20k paint job?) Unfortunately, because of the hand labor involved, and the complexities involved in packing and shipping them to avoid damage, fancy wood finishes tend to cost a lot these days.
(And they are one of the main reason why some of those speakers with the really cool finishes cost so much.)
I agree Keith, the most important thing that matters is how they sound to YOU. However, there's certainly something to be said about the look of fine wood finishes. Salk speakers come to mind. Some of their finishes are absolutely stunning! Why not have speakers that not only sound great, but look great in your listening space too? Keith, $5k finishes are NOT the norm for the vast majority of us. There's a plethora of affordable speakers with nice wood veneer finishes. Wharfedale (My curvy Jade 3s come to mind), Monitor Audio, Philharmonic Audio (Done by Salk), Aperion Audio, Martin Logan, KEF and Ascend Acoustics just to name a few. Some of these brands charge modest up-charge for certain finishes, but it's usually a couple hundred dollars a pair or less. You CAN have your cake and eat it too. I typically don't dust my speakers as they are covered with custom made covers when not in use. I even cover my electronics with microfiber towels when not in use. Inexpensive and effective. |
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Post by Cogito on Mar 2, 2019 0:43:00 GMT -5
As you suggest - most of OUR customers aren't interested in paying a few thousand dollars extra for nice veneer. (I know lots of people who would love to have nice real wood veneer "if we could offer it for less than $500 extra"). Unfortunately, while there are some very nice expensive speakers out there, I've also heard some that had really lovely veneer, or other cool materials, and cost tens of thousands of dollars, and still didn't sound as good as our speakers.
Keith, I've owned a Mercedes CL550 and a Maserati Quatroporte with custom paint. So yes, paying "$25k for a paint job on a car" might be a bit of an exaggeration, but it is not out of the realm of possibility. Indeed, price out custom paint on a Bentley or a Rolls and let me know what you find. For some, value lies in what you want and how you want it to look. As to loudspeakers, spending $25 to $40K is not uncommon in the high-end world, but no one is suggesting Emotiva go there. (Again, I've owned Krell LAT-1's and DeVore Orangutans and Westlake SM-1's.) Clearly some of us will pay what you consider to be outrageous amounts for our gear. Emotiva could easily play at this level, but it's not your business model. You should continue to do what you do well. Boomzilla should bite the bullet and buy some new Revels, Keith, really? A few thousand extra??? Good grief... |
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Post by Loop 7 on Mar 2, 2019 1:52:01 GMT -5
I had no clue that veneer adds multi-thousands to a pair of speakers.
My REL sub is that glossy piano black and I actually like the look.
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