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Post by monkumonku on Jan 19, 2024 19:10:15 GMT -5
I listened to the last Podcast a week or two ago. Very disappointed. We’re getting what already existed with minor cosmetic mods and an option for white. Nothing new to salivate over. 🙁 Russ Then compare that to SVS upcoming speaker systems.  Those speakers remind me of this from Spirited Away.  |
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Post by leonski on Jan 19, 2024 22:29:40 GMT -5
Thus back nearly full circle to enclosure finish........
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Post by doc1963 on Jan 20, 2024 12:56:25 GMT -5
More information on the new line of Airmotiv loudspeakers can be found in the latest video podcast below…
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Post by Lsc on Jan 20, 2024 14:00:33 GMT -5
The big center channel running as LCR seems interesting.
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Post by PaulBe on Jan 20, 2024 15:01:41 GMT -5
Emotiva is making some nice improvements with their new speaker line.
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Post by Cogito on Jan 20, 2024 15:29:51 GMT -5
More information on the new line of Airmotiv loudspeakers can be found in the latest video podcast below… Matte Black... YUCK! Stamped baskets... YUCK! Patting the box and hearing cabinet resonances... SUPER YUCK! |
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Post by leonski on Jan 20, 2024 19:01:28 GMT -5
Cog? I'll agree on 2 of 3. I'm not big on flat black OR 'thumpy' enclosures. One of the big benefits of panels! But a stamped basket? Bad things can be influenced to the good by design and choice of materials.... I would not, for example, use most aluminim alloys except with very specific designs..... I'm fairly sure you CAN get away with a stamped basket. But I'd go so far as to 'forge' which results in higher density. It may even be possible to use a novel material. ($$$$) I'd start by researching the same composite used for the body of the new Aptera automobile. Formed in a gigantic PRESS which is large enough to do 20 or 30 large baskets at one go. Some Italian Company is making these parts. I'd NOT have speaker basket of anything magnetic and of thin gauge..... blog.miscospeakers.com/speaker-basket-materialsCAST Aluminum is widely used...... |
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Post by thezone on Jan 20, 2024 23:57:43 GMT -5
The big center channel running as LCR seems interesting. Its a good idea. I have one made by Krix in Adelaide, South Australia. Perfect for fireplaces. Krix LX-7  |
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Post by leonski on Jan 21, 2024 1:55:33 GMT -5
I'm missing something here, maybe?
How the heck can you see that TV during daylight hours with all that backlight?
A couple costly solutions occur, but I'm not 'feeling' it.......
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Post by Lsc on Jan 21, 2024 16:36:41 GMT -5
I'm missing something here, maybe? How the heck can you see that TV during daylight hours with all that backlight? A couple costly solutions occur, but I'm not 'feeling' it....... Unless there are more windows to the side and back of that tv, I don’t think those windows in the picture affect the tv. |
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Post by leonski on Jan 21, 2024 18:53:36 GMT -5
I'm sorry Lsc......those windows....which I'm betting are part of a view Panorama will destroy the ability to see TV during daylight hours. Especially IF the sun sets or has direct exposure to the deck...... Look THRU the window in the photo. Is that LA or other large city? That's what you are paying for up the hill! The VIEW! I don't know if Photogrey (darkens in bright light) windows are available, like my eyeglasses. Or if the room has shades......which I'd consider to be mandatory. TVs can only play so bright. I think they measure in NITS.....whatever THAT is.... www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/tv-brightness-explained/Your eye is only So Good and what is going to be a very high contrast situation will be to the detriment of what you are trying to see..... www.windowfilmdepot.com/blog/electrochromic-glass-vs-photochromic-glass/a bewildering article. |
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Post by Snoman on Jan 22, 2024 7:04:39 GMT -5
Focal knock offs with isobaric subs for 5 grand and $900-$1300 bookshelves? The marketing department over at SVS is doing an amazing job fooling everyone to say the least. Probably made with the same "aircraft aluminum" as their cotton RFI cables. Nothing is special or new about any of their product designs and a pair of marty's laughably destroy their entire sub line. SVS is not remotely worried about Emotiva, nor do they exist in the same space. If anything, SVS's new product line is going to push even more customers away, some to Emotiva, most to Klipsch, KEF and other well known speaker brands. The new business model is sell less for more.
We get it, you hate SVS... Maybe you should hold on to your opinion until people start getting these into their hands for testing. SVS, like Emotiva, has a solid reputation of offering a lot of "bang for the buck".
The amount of people falling for the SVS hype isn't going to change the fact their products are overpriced and the company uses unicorn fairy dust in their advertising regarding product performance. 'Hate and opinion' is a typical reaction in these instances of disbelief, it's ok. Yes, at one point they offered great value, but recently SVS has decided to double down on their reputation with their new pricing model. Marketing aside, the WMTMW design is a solid design and a separation from the traditional tower that Emotiva offers.
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Post by Snoman on Jan 22, 2024 7:30:22 GMT -5
More information on the new line of Airmotiv loudspeakers can be found in the latest video podcast below…
No new price increases, though there will be 10-25% sales throughout the year (not in video, historical)
3 towers; XT1/2/3; $1000/1400*/1900pr
3 centers; XC1/2/3; $400*/600/900
1 bookshelf; $500
1 atmos (identical to bookshelf with the cabinet angled): $400
*pricing never discussed, estimated
All speakers carry the standard Emotiva 5 year warranty, ship for free and use an AMT (which can be rotated!). All use the typical 5.25/6.5/8" mid-woof model, except the XT1/XC1 which carry a 4" mid-range. All towers carry a triple design woofer.
Dan is offering a discount to the first customer that purchases 3x XC3 centers to use for L/C/R and willing to send in photos for their marketing department. Email sales for more information
Dan stated details on the new speakers will be live no later than January 25th, including ordering information. Nick previously stated "probably 3 weeks", so these will all go live sometime between 1/24 and 2/3.
No other products or timetables for were discussed.
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Post by KeithL on Jan 22, 2024 10:32:44 GMT -5
I'm thinking big heavy drapes that slide in from the sides, and cover the glass, so you can darken the room during the day. (Other than that I can't even imagine watching a TV, in daylight, in a non-darkened room.) I'm missing something here, maybe? How the heck can you see that TV during daylight hours with all that backlight? A couple costly solutions occur, but I'm not 'feeling' it....... |
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Post by Cogito on Jan 22, 2024 15:41:54 GMT -5
We get it, you hate SVS... Maybe you should hold on to your opinion until people start getting these into their hands for testing. SVS, like Emotiva, has a solid reputation of offering a lot of "bang for the buck". The amount of people falling for the SVS hype isn't going to change the fact their products are overpriced and the company uses unicorn fairy dust in their advertising regarding product performance. 'Hate and opinion' is a typical reaction in these instances of disbelief, it's ok. Yes, at one point they offered great value, but recently SVS has decided to double down on their reputation with their new pricing model. Marketing aside, the WMTMW design is a solid design and a separation from the traditional tower that Emotiva offers.
It's not hype. At least as far as their subwoofers are concerned (I've never heard their speakers), they are very well reviewed and widely considered some of the best in the industry on a cost/performance basis. Also, their customer support is among the best also and widely lauded among it's customers. While I might be slightly biased, my SVS sub has provided a decade of reliable performance without a single glitch and it's performance still impresses. |
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Post by thezone on Jan 22, 2024 19:42:33 GMT -5
I'm missing something here, maybe? How the heck can you see that TV during daylight hours with all that backlight? A couple costly solutions occur, but I'm not 'feeling' it....... With a growing family it became the only room left in the house for HT  But who is watching TV in the daytime anyways? |
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Post by thezone on Jan 22, 2024 19:46:01 GMT -5
I'm sorry Lsc......those windows....which I'm betting are part of a view Panorama will destroy the ability to see TV during daylight hours. Especially IF the sun sets or has direct exposure to the deck...... Look THRU the window in the photo. Is that LA or other large city? That's what you are paying for up the hill! The VIEW! I don't know if Photogrey (darkens in bright light) windows are available, like my eyeglasses. Or if the room has shades......which I'd consider to be mandatory. TVs can only play so bright. I think they measure in NITS.....whatever THAT is.... www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/tv-brightness-explained/Your eye is only So Good and what is going to be a very high contrast situation will be to the detriment of what you are trying to see..... www.windowfilmdepot.com/blog/electrochromic-glass-vs-photochromic-glass/a bewildering article. Its Adelaide...........a little bit smaller than LA  Actually, it's not too bad as the room is quite deep and North facing, the windows are double glazed and have a UV "e-glass"coating, its really not that bad. |
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Post by thezone on Jan 22, 2024 19:53:58 GMT -5
I'm thinking big heavy drapes that slide in from the sides, and cover the glass, so you can darken the room during the day. (Other than that I can't even imagine watching a TV, in daylight, in a non-darkened room.) I'm missing something here, maybe? How the heck can you see that TV during daylight hours with all that backlight? A couple costly solutions occur, but I'm not 'feeling' it....... The windows cascade down on either side so there is no blind or drapes options. As the room is north facing the sun doesn't shine directly into the room, there is only a little glare off the deck. Why are we watching TV in the day? Its really about sitting on the couch watching movies with the city as a backdrop at night.  |
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Post by leonski on Jan 22, 2024 20:01:20 GMT -5
E glass doesn't do much for VISIBLE light.
But may help furnishings and such in the longer run.
All my windows are the same....double glaze / eglass.
And I'm in a mild climate area. The COLDEST it has been in the last month is about 35f (2c) with daytimes
certainly in the 50s or 60s. Easy load for the heater!
But pending a plan view of the room / house? That TV is in the WRONG place.
And while north facing is nice.....certainly helpful....the huge Sky / Window exposure is simply
wrong for serious viewing. My INSTINCT would be to place the TV at the darker end of the room and install
motorized SHADES or electrochromic / photochromic glass......At least on the 2 windows immediately adjacent
to the set.
Congrats on a WONDERFUL VIEW. Please post some kind of Tele shot of the nearby city......
You SHOULD be fine for nighttime viewing. No question. Climate type for Adelaide? Csa, which is your basic Mediterranean .......
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Post by audiosyndrome on Jan 22, 2024 20:20:01 GMT -5
thezone I think Leon just volunteered to rearrange your room for you and pick up the cost of the motorized shades / drapes. What a nice guy.
Russ
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