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Post by Stevens on Dec 15, 2009 17:32:04 GMT -5
The big deal is how are you going to program a video selector button that just toggles. So, are you asking about a function that is not on the original remote? Or, would the original remote also be able to perform such a toggle function? (in which case, it should be easy to duplicate the code on the Harmony remote)  |
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Post by dreadpiratemarc on Dec 15, 2009 22:59:03 GMT -5
Notice the "Input" selector is just a +/-. There's no way to directly go to "Input 1," for instance. For those who already have programmable remotes and use macro functions, that's a big deal. Discrete codes provided by Emotiva to Harmony will have more functions than on the original remote, including "Input 1."
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Post by jahays32 on Dec 15, 2009 23:01:57 GMT -5
Notice the "Input" selector is just a +/-. There's no way to directly go to "Input 1," for instance. For those who already have programmable remotes and use macro functions, that's a big deal. Discrete codes provided by Emotiva to Harmony will have more functions than on the original remote, including "Input 1." +1 |
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Post by jahays32 on Dec 15, 2009 23:10:02 GMT -5
Well I hate to say it but he was wrong. The UMC-1 is not in the database. I am merely passing on what I was told by Harmony Tech Support. They have no reason to lie to me. Also, just because the information is not available through the software does not mean that Harmony does not have the information in their database. That may be the case. I hope he is correct. But the point I was making is, it's not in the customer database. So until it is we can't use it. But there is still plenty of time since the UMC-1 is not out anyway. |
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Post by drwily008 on Dec 16, 2009 1:27:12 GMT -5
Notice the "Input" selector is just a +/-. There's no way to directly go to "Input 1," for instance. For those who already have programmable remotes and use macro functions, that's a big deal. Discrete codes provided by Emotiva to Harmony will have more functions than on the original remote, including "Input 1." +1 I hear you guys. I really think this needs to be changed for the XMC-1. |
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Post by radridd on Dec 16, 2009 7:13:51 GMT -5
Notice the "Input" selector is just a +/-. There's no way to directly go to "Input 1," for instance. For those who already have programmable remotes and use macro functions, that's a big deal. Discrete codes provided by Emotiva to Harmony will have more functions than on the original remote, including "Input 1." +1 +2 |
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Post by billmac on Dec 16, 2009 9:10:25 GMT -5
Well I hate to say it but he was wrong. The UMC-1 is not in the database. I am merely passing on what I was told by Harmony Tech Support. They have no reason to lie to me. Also, just because the information is not available through the software does not mean that Harmony does not have the information in their database. The UMC-1 codes could be in Harmony's data base but if they are not available to be downloaded then the codes are of no use to UMC-1 owners in the near future. The USP-1 codes were not available when I had the USP-1. The codes could have been in the data base but they were not available to be downloaded for quite awhile. Hopefully that will not be the case with the UMC-1. Don't some manufacturers use the same code for multiple devices? I wonder if the LMC-1 discrete codes would work for the UMC-1? I asked this question before but did not get a response from Emotiva. It would be good if the direct access codes from the LMC-1's remote would work with the UMC-1. Its too bad that Emotiva did not use a similar remote for the UMC-1 that the LMC-1 had  . I hear you guys. I really think this needs to be changed for the XMC-1. Why should one have to spend the additional money on the XMC-1 to get direct access input buttons on a remote? It was said several times here that Emotiva did not include direct access codes for the UMC-1s remote because many people would be using universal remotes. If the XMC-1s remote has the direct access input codes then that really indicates that cost was the issue with the UMC-1s remote. If UMC-1 owners are expected to be using universal remotes wouldn't XMC-1 owners be using them as well . I understand that at the price points of the USP-1 and the UMC-1 that costs had to be cut somewhere. It is obvious that costs were factored in on the choice of the remotes on both these units. Bill |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Dec 16, 2009 10:14:05 GMT -5
Or they have some other device listed as UMC-1 - I think it needs to be literally spelled out as "Emotiva UMC-1" given the "Emotive" entries and such.
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Post by crowcaine on Dec 16, 2009 10:49:28 GMT -5
Honestly, that remote looks worse than the blue van scam HTIB remote. Cutting cost is one thing but that's dangerously close to Fisher Price guys. Thank God for the Harmony One because that would be embarrassing to have of the coffee table.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Dec 16, 2009 12:33:11 GMT -5
Honestly, that remote looks worse than the blue van scam HTIB remote. Cutting cost is one thing but that's dangerously close to Fisher Price guys. Thank God for the Harmony One because that would be embarrassing to have of the coffee table. Fisher Price build quality is usually superb! ;D |
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Post by jahays32 on Dec 16, 2009 18:10:09 GMT -5
Honestly, that remote looks worse than the blue van scam HTIB remote. Cutting cost is one thing but that's dangerously close to Fisher Price guys. Thank God for the Harmony One because that would be embarrassing to have of the coffee table. Didn't you read the audio handbook (no coffee tables allowed in the HT room) ;D |
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Post by 2infinity on Dec 16, 2009 18:50:10 GMT -5
Honestly, that remote looks worse than the blue van scam HTIB remote. Cutting cost is one thing but that's dangerously close to Fisher Price guys. Thank God for the Harmony One because that would be embarrassing to have of the coffee table. Didn't you read the audio handbook (no coffee tables allowed in the HT room) ;D +1 |
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Post by harblar on Dec 29, 2009 13:18:50 GMT -5
So are there any updates on this yet? I'm patiently waiting for my UMC-1, but in the mean time my Universal remote is on its last leg. I've got a URC MX-950. With out a doubt one of the better home theater purchases I've ever made, though 4+ years of daily use has taken it's toll. The remote battery is weak (easily replaced), but it also locks up every other time I put it on the charger. I'm not sure but I think the lockups keep screwing up the order in some of my macros. For example it can take pressing the power on button up to three times before everything turns on yet a month ago 1 press was sufficient. End user support is almost non-existent to the point where I can't even download updated code sets without jumping through numerous hoops. And not to mention that the programming software and remote itself won't work in anything newer than Win XP. Long story short, it's been a great remote, but I think it's time to upgrade. I've been looking at the harmony line because of its incredibly diverse code set. I've tried harmony in the past and haven't been overly thrilled with the software or remote interface compared to my MX-950(obviously). I get the dumbed down approach to programming a remote, but can't they at least provide an option for advanced users to be able to tweak every little option with out having to use a wizard interace? Anyway, since the UMC-1 will be the Cornerstone of my setup, especially considering that I'll be using all 5 HDMI inputs, I am going to need access to all of the discreet input commands with whichever remote I go with. So what should I do? get a harmony 900-1100? Stick with URC and maybe upgrade to a mx-980? Any other options out there that will give me UMC control out of the box in that $300-$400 range? Will Hex codes be posted for download? If so what remotes in that price range support that option? Hopefully some Emo Staffers can weigh in on this cause I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering about this. |
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Post by redmed on Dec 29, 2009 13:37:57 GMT -5
Wow im very surprised to hear about this problem. This is a deal breaker for me, unfortunately.  I hope emotiva has a solution for this before the release date. |
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Post by bootman on Dec 29, 2009 15:57:32 GMT -5
Wow im very surprised to hear about this problem. This is a deal breaker for me, unfortunately. I hope emotiva has a solution for this before the release date. Not having a harmony profile is a deal breaker? Has the latest harmony remotes lost the ability to learn commands?  |
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Post by billmac on Dec 29, 2009 16:53:31 GMT -5
Not having a harmony profile is a deal breaker? Has the latest harmony remotes lost the ability to learn commands? If the commands are not available with the UMC-1's remote that being direct input access buttons then they can not be taught to a learning remote. So no the latest Harmony remotes have not lost the ability to learn commands they just can't learn commands that aren't there . Has anyone gone to the Harmony site lately to see if the UMC-1's codes are available? Also could the LMC-1's remote which has direct input access buttons work with for the UMC-1? Emotiva could try this at their headquarters and post it here on the forum if the LMC-1's codes will in fact work with the UMC-1. Hopefully the codes will be available when the UMC-1 is in the hands of people with Harmony remotes. If not maybe the first owners of the UMC-1 with Harmony remotes can try the LMC-1's codes. I'm assuming the LMC-1's codes are still in the Harmony database (hopefully  . Bill |
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Post by orange5814 on Dec 29, 2009 23:33:25 GMT -5
I just got a new Harmony One to replace my broken 880. While I was updating the remote, I checked on the site to see if the UMC-1 was listed. Sadly, it is NOT YET LISTED. |
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Post by DYohn on Dec 30, 2009 0:58:30 GMT -5
I just got a new Harmony One to replace my broken 880. While I was updating the remote, I checked on the site to see if the UMC-1 was listed. Sadly, it is NOT YET LISTED. That's not really surprising since it's not yet available... |
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Post by billmac on Dec 30, 2009 3:44:00 GMT -5
That's not really surprising since it's not yet available... If the UMC-1 ships fairly soon as it is supposed to the codes will be needed by owners that have Harmony remotes. If the codes are not available then it will be a royal PITA to teach the codes to ones Harmony. When I had the USP-1 the remote codes were not available and it was available for about a month at that time. Bill |
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Post by ratmice on Dec 30, 2009 8:58:21 GMT -5
I just got a new Harmony One to replace my broken 880. While I was updating the remote, I checked on the site to see if the UMC-1 was listed. Sadly, it is NOT YET LISTED. That's not really surprising since it's not yet available... Actually, the product page does say it's shipping to pre-orders (even though we know it isn't) - so it is available. Codes should be there already, they don't change at the last minute. p.s. same for the manual. |
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