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Post by maseline98 on Jan 19, 2010 12:31:19 GMT -5
Can the harmony be set to use direct source selection. I can't see a reason to have to hit the 'input' button 3 times to get to my input....
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Post by acsubie on Jan 19, 2010 12:58:02 GMT -5
I just hope EMO doesnt figure we will be content with they have given Logitech now, I want seamless control of my UMC with my harmony!
I feel its something that should have been done by Emotiva before releasing the UMC
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Post by oneliterpeter on Jan 19, 2010 15:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by bobbart on Jan 19, 2010 15:46:49 GMT -5
It is in the database but no direct inputs yet, which would make everything much easier.
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Post by oneliterpeter on Jan 19, 2010 17:10:47 GMT -5
It is in the database but no direct inputs yet, which would make everything much easier. It's still better to have a little bit of something than a whole lot of nothing.  |
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Post by jimsfield on Jan 19, 2010 17:45:25 GMT -5
It is in the database but no direct inputs yet, which would make everything much easier. Did you mean discrete inputs? |
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Post by used2b03 on Jan 19, 2010 19:26:24 GMT -5
Which Harmony to buy for the UMC 1? Need one with RF capability. Are there other/better options?
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Post by Donzilla on Jan 19, 2010 19:30:50 GMT -5
used,
The Harmony 890 is a great remote...
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Post by used2b03 on Jan 19, 2010 23:45:53 GMT -5
Donzilla,
Thanks will look into it.
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Post by bigred7078 on Jan 20, 2010 13:14:56 GMT -5
So I thought I'd post my speed settings for the UMC-1: Power On Delay: 14000 Inter-Key Delay: 100 Input Delay: 500 Inter-Device Delay: 100 I could probably get away with a bit less on the Input Delay but I'm just playing it safe for now. Besides, it will become meaningless once discrete input codes are available. I haven't touched the Inter-Key Delay. I could probably get away with 0, but haven't found a reason to test it out. Obviously the big one here is the Power-On Delay. While the unit's booting, it is NOT able to accept commands from the remote. It can accept commands during the volume ramp-up, which will also stop the ramp-up. However, if the command comes a bit too early (right when the ramp-up is about to start), the ramp-up will stop but the input will still not change. Thus, the remote must wait for boot-time to finish and let the ramp-up at least start. Boot time can vary a bit, often taking less than 10 seconds, but I was unable to consistently change inputs upon power-on using delays from 3000, 4000, 5000, and so on all the way up to 11000. I finally cranked it way up to 14000 and it seems to be working every time. I'll try backing it down to 13000 and 12000 and see if those work too. *Update: 13000 does not work consistently.*Update: Reduced Inter-Key delay to 100 with no ill effects.If anyone has better settings, please let me know. I just started messing with delays today for the umc-1 since my 880 has been a little laggy with umc-1 menus. I decided to set the Inter-key delay to 0 and this setting is ten times better. Anyway just thought i would pass along some info for anyone who finds themselves frustrated with key delays. |
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Post by thisonekidmongo on Jan 20, 2010 13:47:29 GMT -5
Hm, I'll try setting Inter-Key Delay to 0 next time.
Meanwhile, has anyone managed a smaller Power-On Delay than me? For some reason, 14 seconds stopped working reliably, and now even 15 is spotty. Quite often the UMC will have finished booting up and ramping the volume several seconds before the remote sends the "change input" commands, yet the input won't change correctly. Either the UMC won't respond at all or will end up stopping one input short of the desired one. I can't figure out what causes this problem, as the remote changes inputs quickly and with 100% reliability once the unit's actually powered on. Any ideas?
Man, I can't wait till we have discrete codes, since that will at least solve the problem of stopping one input short. It's extra annoying when that happens, because the "Help" function will ask if every other component in my setup is powered on/on the right input before finally asking if the UMC's on the right input, even though it's the UMC that's always the problem. I guess the remote itself realizes that the lack of discrete input commands is problematic and wants to avoid asking about that until absolutely necessary.
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Post by darien87 on Jan 20, 2010 13:50:55 GMT -5
Man, I can't wait till we have discrete codes, since that will at least solve the problem of stopping one input short. I hear ya bud. What bugs me is how when it's cycling through the inputs, I get blasted by a half second of music from the radio as it goes past the tuner, (which I hardly ever use). |
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Post by jmilton on Jan 20, 2010 13:56:06 GMT -5
Man, I can't wait till we have discrete codes, since that will at least solve the problem of stopping one input short. I hear ya bud. What bugs me is how when it's cycling through the inputs, I get blasted by a half second of music from the radio as it goes past the tuner, (which I hardly ever use). Interesting, as tuner is input 1 by default. All of my 5 inputs are 2-6 and I never have to cycle down to 1, so I never "pass over" 1 unless I want to go to it. If you must go through it, set it to a dead spot on the radio and you wont hear anything as you go over it. |
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Post by oneliterpeter on Jan 20, 2010 13:57:45 GMT -5
Which Harmony to buy for the UMC 1? Need one with RF capability. Are there other/better options? The Harmony 900 is what you want. Basically a Harmony One with RF. The Harmony One has really great ergonomics and the back lighting is nothing short of spectacular. |
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Post by topcat on Jan 20, 2010 14:43:43 GMT -5
Which Harmony to buy for the UMC 1? Need one with RF capability. Are there other/better options? The Harmony 900 is what you want. Basically a Harmony One with RF. The Harmony One has really great ergonomics and the back lighting is nothing short of spectacular. I have the Harmony 890. Is there any reason that would not work as well as the 900? Could you explain the main differences? Thanks. |
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Post by orange5814 on Jan 20, 2010 14:49:29 GMT -5
Hm, I'll try setting Inter-Key Delay to 0 next time. Meanwhile, has anyone managed a smaller Power-On Delay than me? For some reason, 14 seconds stopped working reliably, and now even 15 is spotty. Quite often the UMC will have finished booting up and ramping the volume several seconds before the remote sends the "change input" commands, yet the input won't change correctly. Either the UMC won't respond at all or will end up stopping one input short of the desired one. I can't figure out what causes this problem, as the remote changes inputs quickly and with 100% reliability once the unit's actually powered on. Any ideas? I have experienced the exact same issues with the UMC-1 during the power up sequence. I wish I had some ideas for you, but for now I just live with it. I usually just power up with the last activity I used and then I change activities after I am powered up. This seems to have helped, or at least it avoids the problem all together. |
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Post by oneliterpeter on Jan 20, 2010 14:52:55 GMT -5
The Harmony 900 is what you want. Basically a Harmony One with RF. The Harmony One has really great ergonomics and the back lighting is nothing short of spectacular. I have the Harmony 890. Is there any reason that would not work as well as the 900? Could you explain the main differences? Thanks. No reason at all why your 890 won't work. I was under the impression that you didn't have one already. I did have the 880 (IR only version) and my only complaints were that the back lighting was a little dim and the charger cradle was a bit finicky, apart from that it was a really nice remote. |
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Post by topcat on Jan 20, 2010 15:19:25 GMT -5
I have the Harmony 890. Is there any reason that would not work as well as the 900? Could you explain the main differences? Thanks. No reason at all why your 890 won't work. I was under the impression that you didn't have one already. Thanks for the answer. I think that you have me confused with another poster though as my question about the 890 was my first entry on this thread. I will have to see if I can find that manual again and see what I can do with the 890. Again, I repeat, thanks for the answer. I did have the 880 (IR only version) and my only complaints were that the back lighting was a little dim and the charger cradle was a bit finicky, apart from that it was a really nice remote. |
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Post by maseline98 on Jan 27, 2010 16:39:45 GMT -5
I understand that most people are looking for the harmony discrete codes for input selection, but what about the people that have URC(or other remotes for that matter). I was thinking about purchasing a URC r50 for $80(that's about all I have to give to a remote) and was wondering what are my options for direct source selection. With the remote being available for purchase for almost 2 years, how would I get a direct source selection in it? Maybe I'm just a little confused(or a n00b), but it just doesn't make any sense how it would work(even with a learning capability) without having to press the input button several times. Can somebody explain it to me. If this is not possible, I'm probably not going to buy the remote. I was going to start another thread for the umc-1/URC remote holders, but I didn't know if there was enough interest in it...
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Post by moe on Jan 27, 2010 17:33:16 GMT -5
I just hope EMO doesnt figure we will be content with they have given Logitech now, I want seamless control of my UMC with my harmony! I feel its something that should have been done by Emotiva before releasing the UMC I wish my piece of junk harmony 659 would work as good as the umc.I would think harmony would not release such a junky remote. |
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