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Post by novisnick on Apr 14, 2019 23:23:44 GMT -5
I have the same question but now the local dealer here is no more as far as I can tell...Emotiva is now direct again in Singapore. Might be cheaper to flog 1 of the 2 units have as is and buy a new unit with 40% off....or schlep my 2 units with me tithe states and ship them con USA for the upgrades and bring back again if my trip is long enough to turn them around with me, or just intel ship the pair back...taxes being the biggest unknown. That’s said I don’t have 4K tv facilities yet nor anything past 5.1 in reality. But the time will come for at least one with Atmos and 4K I hope...swmbo permitting. I suppose I could stick the XMC-1 in the suitcase for "service" then bring back the XMC-2 as the "XMC-1 serviced", that would avoid the 10% GST problem (no duty, as we have an FTA with the US). Might just be the stimulus for the often planned but yet to happen trip to Nashville, Memphis and New Orleans. Timing is the question, when's that XMC-2 going to be available? Cheers Gary Hey Gary, If your driving from Tenn. to NOLA , do so via ALEXANDRIA and be my guest at my cave and restaurant. It would be a great pleasure to host you and who ever your traveling partner (s) is/are. 👍😁♥️ I do admire much/most of your posts and personality. Nick |
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 15, 2019 2:52:31 GMT -5
I suppose I could stick the XMC-1 in the suitcase for "service" then bring back the XMC-2 as the "XMC-1 serviced", that would avoid the 10% GST problem (no duty, as we have an FTA with the US). Might just be the stimulus for the often planned but yet to happen trip to Nashville, Memphis and New Orleans. Timing is the question, when's that XMC-2 going to be available? Hey Gary, If your driving from Tenn. to NOLA , do so via ALEXANDRIA and be my guest at my cave and restaurant. It would be a great pleasure to host you and who ever your traveling partner (s) is/are. 👍😁♥️ I do admire much/most of your posts and personality. Nick Alexandria, is that on the Red River? We (Lisa and I) were planning something like Nashville, Memphis, Baton Rouge and New Orleans, so Alexandria isn't far out of the way. There is an advantage in the reverse direction as we can catch a direct (non stop) QANTAS flight from Sydney to Houston then drive to Baton Rouge and work our way north. Cheers Gary |
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Post by cwt on Apr 15, 2019 6:35:27 GMT -5
I think trying to promote any processor as future proof is a fools errand (one reason why there are so few out there). It’s just so hard to build something and have it upgradeable to who knows what the next thing will be. It looks like Emotiva tried, but then they realized that the cost in R&D for the XMC1 on Atmos was going to be high, plus the support it would need moving forward. They can offer the XMC2 for $625-$1000 people and maybe make a few bucks selling refurbished XMC1s. I’m sure this is still a money loser for Emotiva, but still saves them money compared to building a new Atmos board. I do think they did the stand up thing by offering this deal to their customers. It shows that they were creative in finding solutions for their customers. Or you could look at the big picture and rationalise it as multiple upgrades to your XMC1 which in effect is future proofing it by any other name  - the XMC1 gets upgraded hdmi then the object codecs then dual diff L/C/R + sub channels then 9.1.6 capability then ... Its all in the perspective . And it may continue with hdmi 2.1 and E-ARC ..Not bad for a basic 7.1 pre designed before atmos was even extent.. Not to shabby compared to Denons likely price for its hdmi 2.1 upgrade and that's only allowed for the flagship 8500 .Where Emo can afford to do this is in the basic platform shared between models ; one look at the back panel similarities and inputs etc between the RMC1;RMC1L and XMC2 shows how economies of scale can help the bottom line. The impression I get from upper level pre pro sellers is modularity ; agree the usual lower lines mass market don't . The likes of Acurus; Monoprice;Storm Audio ;ATI; Nad;Trinnov;Harman Kardon;Bryston;Lyngdorf;Theta ; the list goes on . Why ? the wonderful HDMI "standard" for one.. |
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Post by rbk123 on Apr 15, 2019 8:13:20 GMT -5
but the lack of RCA outputs will make me have to re-think my tricky wiring that allows a sub in reference stereo and ability to choose between 2 different FR/FL amps. I think I can work it out but it will take some dedicated thought. After all, I figured out how to do what people said I could not do (have a sub on reference stereo), so this should be trivial. I take it XLR to RCA connectors won't work for you? |
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Post by klinemj on Apr 15, 2019 9:20:52 GMT -5
but the lack of RCA outputs will make me have to re-think my tricky wiring that allows a sub in reference stereo and ability to choose between 2 different FR/FL amps. I think I can work it out but it will take some dedicated thought. After all, I figured out how to do what people said I could not do (have a sub on reference stereo), so this should be trivial. I take it XLR to RCA connectors won't work for you? They do, but I currently use both the RCA and XLR outputs of the XMC-1 to give me the option of running 2 different amps (my Hypex or my PrimaLuna), as well as RCA to my sub from the FR/FL RCA's. I have to map it all out to see how to do it with XLR's only. It will involve more splitters than I current use (the RCA gets split to go to the sub and to the PrimaLuna). I think I will end up needing the split the FR/FL XLR, 1 side will go to the L/R Hypex, the other side will split again and go to the sub and PrimaLuna (with conversion to RCA). I need to map it out to make sure, but I think that's what I will have to do. And, if you are wondering...yes...it's currently a maze of wires behind my system! Mark |
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Post by klinemj on Apr 15, 2019 15:00:33 GMT -5
but the lack of RCA outputs will make me have to re-think my tricky wiring that allows a sub in reference stereo and ability to choose between 2 different FR/FL amps. I think I can work it out but it will take some dedicated thought. After all, I figured out how to do what people said I could not do (have a sub on reference stereo), so this should be trivial. I take it XLR to RCA connectors won't work for you? I figured it out. See this link: -->CLICK HERE<--Mark |
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Post by krauley on Apr 15, 2019 19:14:39 GMT -5
I have no plans for atmos or anything other than 7.1 but getting the new chipset, dirac 2 and being future proof is worth the expense. You never know what the future holds right? Put me down for one also...wheres that list at Wasn't the XMC-1 future proof as well? If I recall part of Emotiva promise back in 2014 was that buying the XMC-1 you won't need another processor for the next 10 years. Unless I fall in a deep coma and just woke up and today is 2024, then the future proof promise lasted exactly half of what Emotiva advertised. So don't hold your breath on over promises and purchase always knowing that the life cycle of a processor technology is no more than 5 years or even less. i guess i should have said "getting update tech" instead of future proof. Nevermind... |
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Post by bolle on Apr 16, 2019 3:03:06 GMT -5
Well, I second the question regarding international owners. If I have to pay double shipping this suddenly isn´t such a good deal anymore. So it would be great if the trade in could happen with the local distributors or maybe even if you could keep the XMC-1 and get a XMC-2 at a much reduced rate once - quite similar to the 40% certificate.
What I am also wondering about - did they even work on the upgrade board all of the time? I understand the approach they are taking now but that doesn´t align with all of the information in the last years...
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 16, 2019 9:31:45 GMT -5
Well, I second the question regarding international owners. If I have to pay double shipping this suddenly isn´t such a good deal anymore. So it would be great if the trade in could happen with the local distributors or maybe even if you could keep the XMC-1 and get a XMC-2 at a much reduced rate once - quite similar to the 40% certificate. You would have had to send your XMC-1 in for the Atmos board upgrade, so it seems the shipping issue is the same, however in both cases it would be nice if you could deal with local distributors. It seems one method they could use is to send out an XMC-2 to prospective ‘upgrade’ customers at full price, you could then exchange the units in your system. When you return your XMC-1 you would then be credited with the ‘trade in’ value, however this might affect how the unit is taxed. Some might opt for this to limit system down time. |
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Post by 405x5 on Apr 16, 2019 11:36:02 GMT -5
I have no plans for atmos or anything other than 7.1 but getting the new chipset, dirac 2 and being future proof is worth the expense. You never know what the future holds right? Put me down for one also...wheres that list at Wasn't the XMC-1 future proof as well? If I recall part of Emotiva promise back in 2014 was that buying the XMC-1 you won't need another processor for the next 10 years. Unless I fall in a deep coma and just woke up and today is 2024, then the future proof promise lasted exactly half of what Emotiva advertised. So don't hold your breath on over promises and purchase always knowing that the life cycle of a processor technology is no more than 5 years or even less. The XMC 1 was never intended to be an Atmos processor. So you can thank object based audio for the destruction of that processor. The industry has created such a HOOPLA about object based audio and putting some form of it into EVERYTHING....sound bars headsets, etc., creating the GOTTA HAVE mindset for consumers. Put it in a soundbar, and its EASY to get (and I'm sure HA HA, that's easier and better then incorporating it into a serious HT setup). I could go on and on, but it doesn't end well. No complaints though....I got what I want in 2014 with the original XMC. and I will get every bit of 10 years out of it, unless it blows out. Bill |
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Post by lgjr on Apr 17, 2019 10:59:55 GMT -5
Will the XMC2 have the same version of Dirac as the RMC1 when it becomes available?
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Post by thrillcat on Apr 17, 2019 11:28:30 GMT -5
Will the XMC2 have the same version of Dirac as the RMC1 when it becomes available? Can’t say for sure, but I’d say it’s likely that Dirac will want to only create a single Emotiva-centric version/system, so yes. |
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Post by cwt on Apr 17, 2019 12:40:10 GMT -5
Will the XMC2 have the same version of Dirac as the RMC1 when it becomes available? On top of the likely Emo proprietary version there is also the question of add on plug ins if Emo gets that license ? ie bass management tiers that are designed for different market segments [read .1 lfe capabilities of which the RMC1 has a higher tier theoretical advantage ] www.dirac.com/news/dirac-live-bass-management-ces2019 |
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Post by lgjr on Apr 17, 2019 13:29:01 GMT -5
Thx.
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Post by jonas79 on Apr 17, 2019 18:11:10 GMT -5
Atmos only to Xmc-2 where did you get that info?
Any updates about Xmc-2 and release date ?
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Post by stiehl11 on Apr 17, 2019 20:22:30 GMT -5
Atmos only to Xmc-2 where did you get that info? AXPONA Any updates about Xmc-2 and release date ? Late Summer to Fall. |
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Post by dimora on Apr 21, 2019 19:22:13 GMT -5
Bwahaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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Post by rbk123 on Apr 22, 2019 9:58:03 GMT -5
Bwahaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa He didn't say 2019... |
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Post by dimora on Apr 22, 2019 12:41:42 GMT -5
Bwahaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa He didn't say 2019... Exactly. I know this song and dance very well as an XMC-1 owner. |
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- the XMC1 gets upgraded hdmi then the object codecs then dual diff L/C/R + sub channels then 9.1.6 capability then 
